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Old 08-01-2005, 07:23 AM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default I can\'t believe this (not much content)

Party 1/2, villain and I each have ~200.

I open for $8 with JJ in LMP, folded to villain who makes it $20 in SB. He's wicked tight (7/4) so I'm pretty sure I'm behind and am calling for set value.

Flop comes QJ7 with 2 clubs, he checks, I bet $25. He types in the chat box:
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QQ?
I have KK
nh

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and then folds

Is anybody really this weak-tight? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 08-01-2005, 07:28 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t believe this (not much content)

Who is the Villain?
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:26 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Party 1/2, villain and I each have ~200.

I open for $8 with JJ in LMP, folded to villain who makes it $20 in SB. He's wicked tight (7/4) so I'm pretty sure I'm behind and am calling for set value.

Flop comes QJ7 with 2 clubs, he checks, I bet $25. He types in the chat box:
[ QUOTE ]
QQ?
I have KK
nh

[/ QUOTE ]
and then folds

Is anybody really this weak-tight? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I can't believe he checked the flop and then folded. I would have at least bet out and then folded to a raise.

It was an incredible play though. Call him weak tight or whatever you want, but that was an awesome play. He probably thought that for you to raise and then call his reraise, you must have had queens or jacks. He probably eliminated aces b/c you didn't reraise preflop. A-K would seem unlikely since he had kings, and you wouldn't figure to call his reraise with A-Q. Looks like a smart guy to me... Also, your $25 bet into a $40 pot looks to me like it's begging to get a call. I like the idea of betting the full pot there, especially after he shows weakness by checking the full bet looks like you might be trying to buy it. Make him think about it at least.

Though I do lead that flop.
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:43 AM
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Well if he knows how you play based on his perceived image, its perfect. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:51 AM
JustToast JustToast is offline
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Wow. How would he figure you didnt hold 88 or 66 or TT etc. though as I expect you would play them the same... no?

On second thought, of course you wouldnt if he knows you had to put him on a huge hand you would never lead the flop without a set since he knows you know he's got a big hand.

Hmm... If he bets and you call he knows he's trapped in this case. Well, you can always use this against him later with rags now to steal.
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Old 08-01-2005, 09:07 AM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Incredibly play? I don't think so. I'm betting an enormous range of hands when he checks to me, not only things that can beat KK. I thought his check was a bit fishy and felt it was likely he had QQ and was going to checkraise me (in which case, I was going to fold).

A barely-more-than-minimum preflop reraise when I have position is not going to get me to fold anything.
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Old 08-01-2005, 09:10 AM
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He had put you on a big pocket. How many pockets does he beat with this board?
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Old 08-01-2005, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t believe this (not much content)

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He had put you on a big pocket

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That's because he's weak/tight. If he didn't suck at poker, he would know Ghaz opens much more than JJ+ in LMP.
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Old 08-01-2005, 09:15 AM
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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Svar till:</font><hr />
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He had put you on a big pocket

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That's because he's weak/tight. If he didn't suck at poker, he would know Ghaz opens much more than JJ+ in LMP.

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He didnt just raise preflop, he called a significant reraise too.
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Old 08-01-2005, 09:17 AM
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It's 10% of his stack, with position, against KK/AA 100% of the time, not to mention there's already $28 in the pot. I call with any suited connector or pocket pair here.
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