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Old 07-31-2005, 08:07 PM
outofstep outofstep is offline
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Default Please review these 4 push/fold situations

I decided to condense my trouble hands into one post.


I think this may have been a bad fold. I didn't like pushing here so maybe 3xBB raise would be best?

***** Hand History for Game 2455826281 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14427871 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Sunday, July 31, 17:55:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 11046 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: jonyjay ( $2445 )
Seat 2: BlackCard ( $1690 )
Seat 4: outofstep22 ( $1105 )
Seat 7: annieboze ( $585 )
Seat 8: nannygoat13 ( $1185 )
Seat 10: Chip_Czar ( $990 )
Trny:14427871 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to outofstep22 [ 7d 7s ]
jonyjay folds.
BlackCard folds.
>You have options at Table 11175 Table!.
outofstep22 folds.


I was really out of position here but I would be next with the blinds chaning to 100/200. Did I get too desperate too soon?

***** Hand History for Game 2456136581 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14429114 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Sunday, July 31, 18:50:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 11099 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: outofstep22 ( $825 )
Seat 7: FettLasse ( $300 )
Seat 8: jimmy353 ( $1395 )
Seat 1: TN7777 ( $1710 )
Seat 9: tarbilt ( $1995 )
Seat 10: AuntMonk ( $1775 )
Trny:14429114 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to outofstep22 [ Ah 8d ]
TN7777 folds.
outofstep22 is all-In.

Hmm... I think this one is okay. What do you guys think?

***** Hand History for Game 2456096414 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14428986 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Sunday, July 31, 18:43:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 11655 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Nidur ( $1275 )
Seat 2: houseframer1 ( $2995 )
Seat 3: outofstep22 ( $925 )
Seat 8: delcity1977 ( $1970 )
Seat 9: RobbieJFG999 ( $835 )
Trny:14428986 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to outofstep22 [ 4h 4s ]
houseframer1 folds.
outofstep22 is all-In.
delcity1977 folds.
RobbieJFG999 folds.
Nidur calls [775].


On the bubble both opponents have been playing pretty tight. Figured it was an easy push. What do you guys think?

***** Hand History for Game 2455898208 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14427871 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Sunday, July 31, 18:08:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 11046 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: jonyjay ( $1580 )
Seat 2: BlackCard ( $2510 )
Seat 4: outofstep22 ( $2070 )
Seat 8: nannygoat13 ( $1840 )
Trny:14427871 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to outofstep22 [ Ks 7c ]
BlackCard folds.
>You have options at Table 11534 Table!.
outofstep22 raises [1300].
(Meant to bring the bar all the way over for all-in)
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:13 PM
ldavidjm ldavidjm is offline
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Default Re: Please review these 4 push/fold situations

Hands 2-4 I push without much of a second thought, they seem quite standard to me.

Hand 1 I think I would push, but its closer. If you flip it so two small stacks had folded and the big stacks are yet to act I think I might lean towards a fold.
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:23 PM
dethgrind dethgrind is offline
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Default Re: Please review these 4 push/fold situations

[ QUOTE ]
Hands 2-4 I push without much of a second thought, they seem quite standard to me.

Hand 1 I think I would push, but its closer. If you flip it so two small stacks had folded and the big stacks are yet to act I think I might lean towards a fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, I like pushing 2-4.

#1 is iffy, I never feel comfortable with that sort of hand and that size stack. If you do raise 3BB, do you fold if one of the two bigger stacks comes over the top? How do you play the flop if one of them just calls?
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:28 PM
SammyKid11 SammyKid11 is offline
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Default Re: Please review these 4 push/fold situations

Hand 1, I'd make a normal 3xBB raise.
Hand 2, for all intents and purposes (since the blinds are about to go up), you only have 4xBB in your stack. I don't mind the push even out of position.
Hand 3, easy push.
Hand 4, I don't like this push from the button -- though if you were SB it'd be clear.
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:29 PM
ldavidjm ldavidjm is offline
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Default Re: Please review these 4 push/fold situations

The bigger stacks are out already. You don't really want to be playing this postflop, and you don't want to be committing 300 of your 1100 chips PF either because of flop and reraise issues. You have to push or fold.


Edit: Am I the only one that thinks raising up nearly 30% of your stack preflop with a mid pocket pair that you don't want to be calling pushes with, nor want to be playing on an overcard flop is pretty bad??
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