The Real Reason for the War

Mason Malmuth · #1 03-09-2003, 06:23 PM

http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-Paper2.htm

brad · #2 03-09-2003, 06:30 PM

'This paradigm starts with the premise that there exists an extraterrestrial (ET) presence on Earth which clandestine government organizations have been withholding knowledge of from the general public and elected public officials.'

first you post a losing hand and now this!

i want to go on record as being on record as saying that illegal immigration must be stopped!

Mason Malmuth · #3 03-09-2003, 06:34 PM

I bet Ray Zee knows something about this and has been withholding all these years.

MM

brad · #4 03-09-2003, 06:39 PM

if his hair has always been white and not an age related thing i think we need an investigation immediately.

BruceZ · #5 03-09-2003, 06:47 PM

Mason, we mustn't frighten the earthlings.

Ray Zee · #6 03-09-2003, 09:33 PM

the shuttle was blown up because it violated restricted airspace near bush's ranch. no one is safe from the politicians.

as far as those big eyed visitors from space. einstein told us time slows down as you go faster, so they cant here from there.

the ones we think come from outerspace come from inside the earths crust, thats the real conspiracy.

Zeno · #7 03-09-2003, 11:02 PM

Holy Ezekiel!

Mason, have all those pills final taken their toll?

Isn't our geopolitics mixed up enough without this exopolitics? Anyway, I am comforted that Ray Zee has all this well in hand. Thank God!

-Zeno

scalf · #8 03-09-2003, 11:24 PM

[img]/forums/images/icons/blush.gif[/img] of course..the garden of eden was between tigris and euphrates...makes sense to me...gl [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

BruceZ · #9 03-10-2003, 03:00 AM

as far as those big eyed visitors from space. einstein told us time slows down as you go faster, so they cant here from there.

Actually Ray, it means they can get here from there. Since time slows for you as you approach the speed of light, if you travel close enough to the speed of light, you can cover vast distances of space in a time which to you would be relatively short. You could travel hundreds or thousands of light years, and for you it would only take a few months, a few hours, or a even just a few seconds depending how close you were to the speed of light. If it were possible to travel at exactly the speed of light, then you could cover infinte distances in an instant since time would stop for you. You do use some time while you are accelerating and while you are decelerating once you reach your destination.

You might think that approaching the speed of light is difficult, but actually all it requires is to sustain an acceleration equal to the force of gravity (1G) for 1 year. Of course sustaining this acceleration requires enormous energy, especially since your mass goes to infinity as you approach the speed of light (which is why you can never quite reach that velocity); however, it is possible to build a large "light sail" which uses momentum of light from the sun and stars to achieve this acceleration. Fusion powered vehicles are another option.

A disadvantage of this method of travel is that when you get back, centuries have passed and all your friends are dead, and your own planet may not even exist anymore. However, Einstein's general relativity suggests a way that even this could be countered in theory. It holds for the possibility that in some regions of space, space-time could be warped in such a way that you could travel a path between two points that is shorter than the path that light would take. This would actually allow you to go backwards in time. The more laps you make between these two points, the more time from your trip you could "unwind". It is not known if such places in space exist; however, notice that if they do exist anywhere in the universe, you have plenty of time to try and find them if you can travel close to the speed of light. I would suggest sending a probe out first to find such places, and then use them to unwind time. We'd know it worked since the probe would appear before we ever built it [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

The first method, however, slowing time in your reference when traveling close to the speed of light, only requires an advance of technology. The physics that supports this is well established.

Ray Zee · #10 03-10-2003, 10:42 AM

thanks bruce, i do know relativity theory fairly well. at least some of what you propose.

but my quip was einstein combined with yoggi berra.