Kings vs. a Donk

durron597 · #1 07-30-2005, 11:07 PM

I don't care what this person has, this move is donkish. Second hand thus no read.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

CO (t1500)
Button (t1420)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1600)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, Hero raises to t120, 6 folds, UTG calls t100, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: (t290) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t1380 (All-In), Hero....

HighestCard · #2 07-30-2005, 11:14 PM

I see villian on one of three hands,
40% 2 clubs
40% pocket aces
10% ace x

Im assuming this was a 22 or lower...

I might have to make a call in this situation because if the villian does get his flush, you have the nut flush draw.
Somebody flame me on this though.

Bigdaddydvo · #3 07-30-2005, 11:15 PM

Yeah, it's a donk bet, but given how early it is, there's too good of a chance he's telling the truth. Hero folds.

bluefeet · #4 07-30-2005, 11:16 PM

Ax is as likely as 2 clubs. but the open-push on the flop? smells more like a flush draw than an ace...assuming he's giving you ANY credit for the ace. playing w/ t1500, i MIGHT be able to fold and walk away. i wouldn't hate a call though.

lastchance · #5 07-30-2005, 11:21 PM

I give people credit for Ax. I fold. Plus, a flush draw still has outs, against Ax, you're drawing near dead.

ldavidjm · #6 07-30-2005, 11:40 PM

Its such a huge overbet that I fold it. Even if he has the club draw 60% of the time and an Ace only 40% you're still not getting anywhere near the odss to call it. Its probably even worse than that with the % but I don't really want to do the math.

shish · #7 07-30-2005, 11:45 PM

I see this bet a lot at the lower levels, not sure what level this is at. I fold here with no reads.

durron597 · #8 07-30-2005, 11:46 PM

Sorry that should have been in the OP.

durron597 · #9 07-31-2005, 12:10 AM

This person thought for a very long time before pushing.

lastchance · #10 07-31-2005, 12:14 AM

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10/90 against Ax, 67/33 against a flush draw... This is not a good spot to be in if you want to call. Without a read, I think this call is terrible, and I'd never call here.