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Old 07-30-2005, 02:20 PM
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Converter isn't working for me

This is an 11 and I have no reads but I assume this player sucks by his limp/call.

Is this lunacy or standard?

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Villun ( $1005 )
Seat 2: emiliozapata ( $405 )
Seat 3: teamriddle ( $3280 )
Seat 5: Bush2964 ( $910 )
Seat 8: misteraitch ( $930 )
Seat 9: Pre_Cise ( $640 )
Seat 10: cincykid1 ( $830 )
Trny:14391818 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Villun [ Ah Qc ]
Pre_Cise folds.
cincykid1 calls [50].
Villun raises [200].
emiliozapata folds.
teamriddle folds.
Bush2964 folds.
>You have options at Table 11694 Table!.
misteraitch folds.
cincykid1 calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 4s, 4d ]
cincykid1 bets [250].
Villun is all-In [805]
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:25 PM
morgan180 morgan180 is offline
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Default Re: Some people amaze me

you'll probably need to improve to win here as the betting looks like you're up against a small/medium pair; i'd say 55-88 somewhere in there.

most donks overvalue small pairs early on with no one in the pot with them. if it was overcards he probably would have checked the flop.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:25 PM
citanul citanul is offline
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Default Re: Some people amaze me

He's got to have a pair a lot of the time here right? And the guy who limp calls (however stupidly) with 66 is going to be the guy who "stupidly" busts your ass on this hand.

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Old 07-30-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Some people amaze me

It looks like a small pair to me. I think its a pretty easy fold actually, very occasionally you'll see AX here but not often enough to make this play.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Some people amaze me

yah villain showed a weaker ace and I won the pot.

I figured this was moronic the second I pushed.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:45 PM
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I would call more often than not here.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:55 PM
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Call preflop? I am still getting the hang of playing AK/AQ early in the shallower stacked tournaments.
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Old 07-30-2005, 03:04 PM
Matt R. Matt R. is offline
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I'd definitely raise preflop. But, as others have said, I'd put villain precisely on any pocket pair after he bets the flop. I'd fold here almost all of the time without a read. But, then again, it's an $11, so you probably have to adjust for the retard factor (I guess it was pretty high in this hand).
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:42 PM
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Call preflop? I am still getting the hang of playing AK/AQ early in the shallower stacked tournaments.

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I'd have pushed preflop. However, in your case it's an easy flop push.
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Old 07-30-2005, 07:04 PM
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I think at an 11 the push is much easier as to the fact that they seem to overvalue their Ax (case in point). But I sometimes tend to err on the loose side [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Uhhh...why would you push pf here? Some 11ers will limp with QQ-AA, not to mention you might get called by any pair and be slightly behind. When your going to win a measly 50 chips most of the time.
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