seven card stud or pot limit omaha

#1 07-29-2005, 04:02 PM

I'm currently very interested in learning a new poker game and is caught in between 7 card stud or pot limit omaha. I'm wondering which game is easier to learn and master. It would be a bonus if you can tell me why you choose one over the other. Thanks for your help

MagicMan08 · #2 07-29-2005, 04:42 PM

Uhhh totally different games. Try posting in the omaha or 7 stud forums in poker.

AKQJ10 · #3 07-29-2005, 04:43 PM

Because of the presence of exposed upcards, a diligent player can obtain a good deal of information on what cards are already dead, or dealt to other hands. Thus stud rewards players who both observe their opponents' folded hands carefully and remember their contents. (Quoting myself, which I'd forgotten I wrote [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

The friend who got me into poker multitables HE online, but always plays stud in a casino, reasoning that his memory skills help him when he can't multitable anyway. If you have a good memory and want to play a game that rewards memory and observation, go with 7-stud. If not, probably tend toward PLO.

I believe stud is considered to have more swings than HE; not sure about HE vs. Omaha.

AKQJ10 · #4 07-29-2005, 04:44 PM

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Uhhh totally different games. Try posting in the omaha or 7 stud forums in poker.

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Good advice, but I hope the implication wasn't that this is a hold 'em only forum.

AngryCola · #5 07-29-2005, 04:48 PM

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Uhhh totally different games. Try posting in the omaha or 7 stud forums in poker.

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Good advice, but I hope the implication wasn't that this is a hold 'em only forum.

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I moved this thread to the beginner's forum, because it is a beginner's question and is not specific to one game.

It was originally posted in the magazine forum.

AKQJ10 · #6 07-29-2005, 04:57 PM

Ah, thanks for the explanation.

playersare · #7 07-29-2005, 04:58 PM

I learned stud (high hand only) after HE. easier to evaluate starting cards compared to omaha, position is not as important, and you have a lot more information from your opponents to make decisions. the volatility can be high because it is usually correct to chase come hands down, and also that individual composition of hands can change dramatically on every street. there's less of a "what if" mentality since you don't see any more of your own cards after you fold. just play the percentages on your live cards, and you should be able to do no worse than breakeven before slowly improving your skill. since I got reasonably good at 7CS, I have no desire to learn any high-low split games (yet).

some good cheap places to hone your stud skill - Ultimate Bet 25c/50c with bonus, and Paradise 50c/$1 with no ante.

AKQJ10 · #8 07-29-2005, 05:05 PM

Pacific also has low-limit games, fishy as their hold 'em -- I'm pretty sure i've played 5c/10c, but if not I believe 25c/50c is usually going North American evenings.

BTW, if you play live low-limit stud (probably a $1-3 or $1-5 spread limit game with average age of about 60), watch out for the effect of an overante. Foxwoods now has a 50c ante to their $1-3, which means this game is anted like a much bigger game if I'm not mistaken.

MagicMan08 · #9 07-29-2005, 05:28 PM

Fair enough, I was just pointing him in a certain direction. I do have my fair share of stupid posts, but when someone obviously seems serious, I know what its like to be on the other end posting something and coming back only to see some idiot is making fun of me. I started somewhere.

TaoTe · #10 07-29-2005, 06:04 PM

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I'm currently very interested in learning a new poker game and is caught in between 7 card stud or pot limit omaha. I'm wondering which game is easier to learn and master. It would be a bonus if you can tell me why you choose one over the other. Thanks for your help

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I don't believe either of the games are easy to master. I rarely play 7stud (though I plan starting in the future) but Omaha (actually Omaha8) has become my new game of choice. Why? The games are cakewalks at the lowest levels and only at the 2/4 and above does the play start to get chellenging. The micro limit Omaha game will allow to be a nut peddler and still make a profit because of how loose the games are. A difficulty from moving to HE to Omaha though is in hand strength. While AK may be a strong hand in HE a bare AK in omaha is normally not playable.

If you were to start Omaha (which I would recommend [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) not playing it at pot limit would be my suggestion until you can get a feel for the game. If you must dive into big bet poker than try the PLO SNGs. They will give you a lot of experience on the cheap.