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Old 07-28-2005, 10:39 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

No read multitabling and IMing.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t1400)
CO (t1435)
Button (t1395)
Hero (t1630)
BB (t1760)
UTG (t830)
UTG+1 (t2010)
MP1 (t1045)
MP2 (t1995)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, BB calls t100, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t350) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150.

River: (t650) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, BB calls t250.

Final Pot: t1150
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:49 PM
Ogre Ogre is offline
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

i fold the turn here and if i call i would check the river
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

Smells vaguely of a weak flush to me. With no read it's a little tough to know what his calls mean. Taken at face value, he may have Q/weak too.

Stop IMing with me.

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Old 07-29-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

I check-raise here, or check-call lead turn.

I hate being raised here, hate being called here, and with a check-raise, you can safely fold a lot of things.
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

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I check-raise here, or check-call lead turn.

I hate being raised here, hate being called here, and with a check-raise, you can safely fold a lot of things.

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Durron- It seems like every hand you post always ends up with a check raise being suggested.

Have you *ever* check raised, you muppet?

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Old 07-29-2005, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

The problem is when I check raise I have to commit a lot of my stack, almost as much as what it cost me to get to showdown in my line. Plus when I get called I still have pretty much no idea what my hand is worth.

I chose the line I took because it got me to showdown as cheaply as possible while still charging draws.

I called the turn because I have the T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

The river is a standard blocking bet. It's an automuck if I get raised but it gets a lot of hands that I beat that might bet to just call (99, A6, etc.).
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:16 AM
psyduck psyduck is offline
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

I often bet t15 (or in this case, t50) as a blocking bet on the turn and river when I have TPNK or TPMK since my hand has showdown value but I don't want to call a 1/2 pot to pottish bet. Fortunately, at the 22s and 33s, this works a LOT of the time.
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

Look at the size of the pot. No one will respect those bets. If I was BB I would treat a minbet the same way I would've treated a check.
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: TPGK in the blinds OOP (again)

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Have you *ever* check raised, you muppet?


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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Actually it seems I just never post the hands where I checkraise. Usually it's a standard semibluff or I have the nuts hand and thus not interesting.

I almost never checkraise w/a marginal hand except in large blind situations.
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Old 07-29-2005, 07:16 AM
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He had 32o. Maybe he folds if I c/r the flop? I think I extracted the most when ahead and lost the least when behind.
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