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Old 07-27-2005, 10:22 AM
Wevie Wevie is offline
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Default top pair and low pair

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***** Hand History for Game 2432354586 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14302452 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Wednesday, July 27, 09:42:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 35307 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: fillup1230 ( $1470 )
Seat 2: Torben1 ( $765 )
Seat 3: the_phish ( $990 )
Seat 4: Org45EB ( $1420 )
Seat 5: Blaze56 ( $485 )
Seat 6: woodske ( $240 )
Seat 9: pharmerjane ( $900 )
Seat 10: Ez2fold ( $745 )
Seat 7: HERO ( $985 )
Trny:14302452 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2h As ]
Org45EB: I guessed that...
HERO: nh
pharmerjane folds.
Ez2fold folds.
Org45EB: ty
fillup1230 calls [50].
Torben1 folds.
the_phish folds.
Org45EB folds.
Blaze56 folds.
woodske calls [25].
HERO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 9h, 3s ]
woodske checks.
HERO checks.
fillup1230 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
woodske checks.
HERO bets [50].
fillup1230 raises [200].
woodske folds.



HERO ???
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: top pair and low pair

Again I like a flat call here, then a check-reraise on the river.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: top pair and low pair

Looking back, I must agree. I made a beginners mistake:

HERO is all-In [885]
fillup1230 calls [735].
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
fillup1230 shows [ Kc, Ad ] two pairs, aces and nines.
HERO shows [ 2h, As ] two pairs, aces and nines.
fillup1230 wins 2020 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and nines with king kicker.
HERO finished in ninth place.
HERO has left the table.
Game #2432355955 starts

Damn the river.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: top pair and low pair

Nah, that's just a bad beat. Your line is fine but I find often when you push your opponent will lay down (if they are sensible) TPTK in such a situation, giving you credit for a better hand (two pair, a set, etc). Unless you've shown to be a donk which I doubt as you're posting here. I am not saying flat call so you can be all weak tight on the river, though in this instance, yes it does save you. But by simply calling then checking the river (let's assume, for a minute, it was a non-9) he is going to push, and then you can call and take his stack
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: top pair and low pair

I smooth call here and lead out on the river. You just got unlucky. He was dead to nine outs with only one card to come. He was about to be punished for limping with AK. Don't forget online poker is rigged [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 07-27-2005, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: top pair and low pair


If your min-bet was to setup a raise/reraise situation, then there you go. But, consider....

1) I'm not folding (if he has a better 2-pair, or was slowin' trips, so be it)
2) He's not folding to a push (unless a read tells you otherwise)
3) It's not a given that we have the best hand

...this is one of those occasions, where I call, and check/call the river with as many chips as it takes.

No doubt this is a somewhat weaker line, but there really isn't a turn card that is going to make you any more comfortable (short of a 2 of course). If we are in fact all but dead on the turn, you might survive the river call still holding chips.

If we believe #2 to be true, we can't concern ourselves with him improving on the river. That river card is coming whether we push on the turn or not.

I guess folding is an option, but I don't see how I could. His raise could merely represent an Ace-decent kicker, slapping your weak min-bet.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:39 AM
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The way he had been playing I really put him on Ax. I don't quite get the limp with slick. Is he looking to keep the drawing hands in?
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: top pair and low pair

At the $10s up through the $30s I do exactly what you did and jam on the turn. Very few at these levels will lay down top pair with an overcard kicker, so you will get calls from AK-AT here. Hell, maybe even A8-A5. You just got unlucky here.
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