One limper, TT on the button with 18BBs...

[45suited]

How many of you like pushing this with TT from the button after one limper when I have almost 18BB? I really like doing this alot because:

1) I'd have to risk 1/4 of my stack to make a normal raise
2) I really don't want to see a flop
3) I get called SO OFTEN by small PPs or one overcard
because it looks like such a steal

Is this standard for most of you guys? Maybe you won't get paid off at the higher levels, but then again, maybe you will because it looks so suspicious. I really don't see any line better than pushing here, does anybody else?

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 4: marzz222 ( $1490 )
Seat 9: maddawg1018 ( $1480 )
Seat 10: asidz ( $880 )
Seat 6: HERO ( $880 )
Seat 8: vman4051964 ( $773 )
Seat 3: garudamojo ( $902 )
Seat 7: PharmD07 ( $1595 )

Trny:14300646 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc Ts ]
maddawg1018 folds.
asidz folds.
garudamojo calls [50].
marzz222 folds.
HERO is all-In [880]

[RaiNz]

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3) I get called SO OFTEN by small PPs or one overcard because it looks like such a steal


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This is a good thing. You are atleast a 2:1 favorite vs the 1 overcard, and 4:1 vs the dominated underpair. Pushing with this many BB is really bad. The only hands that call you are going to be the ones that beat you with the exception of maybe AK. That means when you get called you are either severely dominated, or slightly better than a coinflip.

[Maulik]

Too much risk for very little reward of t125 chips. Just limp and bet most flops. You're also misunderstanding how deep 18bb is considering the new lvl 75/150. You've got 10 extra hands to find a good spot.

[durron597]

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3) I get called SO OFTEN by small PPs or one overcard
because it looks like such a steal

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Do you really think so? How often does K9 call you here? Or A9? A9 is the only 1 overcard hand that might call you on a regular basis. On the other hand small pairs do call you here but not as frequently as you might think (I'm certainly folding 77 here, so really you're looking to see 88 or 99).

On the other hand, I really don't see why you don't want to see a flop here. Most of the time 1 over flops and usually your opponent doesn't have it unless they have an ace. TT is a good hand, extract value from it; YOU ARE IN POSITION. Unless you are confident you will get outplayed postflop, just make a standard raise.

[RaiNz]

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Too much risk for very little reward of t125 chips. Just limp and bet most flops. You're also misunderstanding how deep 18bb is considering the new lvl 75/150. You've got 10 extra hands to find a good spot.

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Why do you suggest we limp instead of making a standard raise here?

[durron597]

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You've got 10 extra hands to find a good spot.

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TT on the button *is* a good spot.

[bmxreed36]

I sometimes limp but also sometimes in similar situations, I may make a smallish raise to say 150 just to be able to hopefully go heads-up with the initial limper. You will have position after the flop after showing strength pre-flop which makes it easier to play and it still isn't too much to lose if you have to dump it on the flop.

[Paradigm]

i make a standard pre-flop raise to 150. there's no need to risk so many chips at this instance, considering we can't be sure that the limper will call with a lower PP. further, do not discredit the fact that you have position on this hand and you can dump quickly if the board slaps you in the face.

[Felipe]

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further, do not discredit the fact that you have position on this hand and you can dump quickly if the board slaps you in the face.

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We can bet TT, even if the flop slaps us.

[tigerite]

I think you don't understand, the point is he'll be acting last on the flop, so if it comes KQ5 or something then he can tell from the actions of the other players who called as to what he should do next. This is why the button is such a strong preflop position to be in.