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Old 07-22-2005, 02:30 PM
Amerretto Amerretto is offline
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Default Top pair v aggression

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Villain is Loose aggressive. Am I way to passive here all the way through. Should I be raising on the flop and turn, and reraising? I seem to be losing cash here?

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Villain raising in early position, though I was going to be dominated, should I raise though?

Flop: (12.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: (7.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Once more, Hindsight I'm kicking myself, top pair, decent kicker, should I be raising?

River: (9.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: Top pair v aggression

i'd 3-bet preflop.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Top pair v aggression

With a light-raising LAG and a bunch of players trapped in the middle, you need to 3-bet pf.

The way it played out, you need to raise either the turn or river. I'd prefer the turn but I think you can still value-bet the river, and that you probably won the hand.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:36 PM
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i'd 3-bet preflop.


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Old 07-22-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Top pair v aggression

LAG, I'm raising him preflop.

Flop, 14.5 SB...I'm getting odds, I call.

Turn, I hit and I'm HU with LAG, I raise.

River, that K sucks. I'd probably just call as he has illustrated he may very well be holding a K.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Top pair v aggression

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i'd 3-bet preflop.

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After the flop, if he bet into you again would you again reraise, or at this stage would you just call down and reraise the Turn when the Ace hit?
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:40 PM
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i'd 3-bet preflop.

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After the flop, if he bet into you again would you again reraise, or at this stage would you just call down and reraise the Turn when the Ace hit?

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Call the flop and raise the turn. Continuation-raising doesn't do much with your relative position.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Top pair v aggression

I would 3 bet the lag here pf.

I think the turn call is good.

I would raise the turn, see how utg reacts.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Top pair v aggression

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i'd 3-bet preflop.

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After the flop, if he bet into you again would you again reraise, or at this stage would you just call down and reraise the Turn when the Ace hit?

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i would not raise on the flop. i would call.
AQs is good, and we have a BDFD and gutshot to the nuts but right now we have ace-high. i'd probably raise the turn but it would also depend on what the other opponents did.


fyi-to pick a nit, if he bets into us we raise - reraising is equivalent to "3-bet". but i know what you mean. (I don't know why that bothers me).
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:46 PM
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LAG, I'm raising him preflop.

Flop, 14.5 SB...I'm getting odds, I call.

Turn, I hit and I'm HU with LAG, I raise.

River, that K sucks. I'd probably just call as he has illustrated he may very well be holding a K.

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Textbook, give the man a coconut. Villain had K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I think my big mistake here was not three betting (sorry Tilt) the turn, I could have raised preflop, but I thought I was looking at high pairs / AKs, AQs,AK, poss AQo, all of which I was behind to. The flop played itself, but when that Ace hit, I should have been betting it up.

End result would have been the same though, lost to Trip Kings [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] but was more annoyed at myself not betting that Turn.
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