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Old 07-19-2005, 10:37 AM
junkmail3 junkmail3 is offline
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Default How to deal with big draws

Middle stages of a party 33.

BB T50

Hero has T1500
SB: T1000
Button: T2000
Three other players left with even distribution of remaining chips.

Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="red"> Hero open raises to T150 from CO </font> , Button calls, SB calls BB folds.

(T500) Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB leads out for T150, <font color="red"> Hero ... ? </font>
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:51 AM
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With the pot now being at 675 and you only have to call for 150, your getting pot odds of 4.5 - 1, and your on a flush draw giving you odds of 4 - 1 which means the correct move is to call.

The real worry here is the button is yet to act
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: How to deal with big draws

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With the pot now being at 675 and you only have to call for 150, your getting pot odds of 4.5 - 1, and your on a flush draw giving you odds of 4 - 1 which means the correct move is to call.

The real worry here is the button is yet to act

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I could also semi-bluff raise to get a free card and knock out the button as well, and also see what the other players think of their hand.

I don't think the correct answer is to fold, but I'm not sure if I should just call or raise, and if raise, by how much?
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:13 AM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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Default Re: How to deal with big draws

Definitely do not fold. Calling is an option, but then you may be faced with a difficult decision if the turn bricks and the villain bets out again this time say more then half the pot.
I think raising to 375-450 range is good. If villain folds you take down a good pot, if he calls then he may check the turn giving you many options to bet or check then. If villain re-raises all-in on your flop raise you may want to call, I would. This also depends on how tight/aggressive villian has been playing.
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: How to deal with big draws

Anyone consider pushing here?
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: How to deal with big draws

Im pushing here most of the time, two overcards, a gutshot and second nut flushdraw is a nice hand.
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: How to deal with big draws

Pushing isn't as strong as, say, raising to 500 and then pushing the turn.
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: How to deal with big draws

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Pushing isn't as strong as, say, raising to 500 and then pushing the turn.

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The SB has 850 chips left...if you raise to 500 and they call for another 350...say a brick hits the turn and you push they have to call. I would rather get my chips in here as a probable favorite then on the turn as a possible underdog.
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: How to deal with big draws

There's 3 people in the hand. If the button now cold calls the raise (think set) I can still get away on the turn.
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:58 AM
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There's 3 people in the hand. If the button now cold calls the raise (think set) I can still get away on the turn.

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This is a hand you want to see to the river
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