Short stacked on the bubble

[11t]

Is folding here even an option?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button (t3335)
SB (t4580)
Hero (t1485)
UTG (t4100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1275) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t660 (All-In)</font>

[durron597]

You don't have enough chips for a stop and go (your opponent has pot odds to call with AK assuming his outs are clean). Though a stop and go is better than pushing preflop I guess on the off chance he folds.

I think that you CAN fold here, if you had 200 chips less you definitely can't, but it probably isn't a good idea. I think your line is best.

[11t]

Yah, it was an obvious stop n go but every chance he has to fold the better

[schwza]

i would fold pre-flop without hesitating. you will have FE if it folds to your SB next hand, and if not, at least you won't be playing against a pfr'er. and you never know - somebody might make a bad fold in the BB, or maybe AA v KK will happen next hand and you squeak into 3rd.

[11t]

What is the line where you dont fold here?

[schwza]

QJ/A8.

[11t]

I meant in the form of BB's

[durron597]

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you will have FE if it folds to your SB next hand,

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Not really, the BB will be calling you with top 85% at least given your stack size (there are antes).

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and if not, at least you won't be playing against a pfr'er.

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The pfr'er should raise with any two if you fold Q8o here.

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and you never know - somebody might make a bad fold in the BB, or maybe AA v KK will happen next hand and you squeak into 3rd.

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Is it really worth it to sacrifice the overlay here to hope for something like that? Man I need to get SnGPT.

[11t]

SnG PT says it is -EV until I have ~1000(2.5xBB) then it is BARELY +EV

[durron597]

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SnG PT says it is -EV until I have ~1000(2.5xBB) then it is BARELY +EV

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What range are you giving the big stack?