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Old 07-17-2005, 11:32 PM
fluorescenthippo fluorescenthippo is offline
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Default Pushing 62o with shortstack allin

this is a 50+5.

5 handed. blinds 50/100. folded to button (170) who pushes.
i have 750 after posting the SB with 62o.
BB has 2000.

assuming BB doesnt call, its 120 to win 320 and im risking 16% of my stack. what do you guys think?
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin

I'm wondering how you have the bankroll for the $55s.

If you want to Gigabet Dilemna the shortstack, why don't you just call and hope the BB gets out of the way? Do you really want to risk your entire stack with 62o because you vastly misunderstood what it meant to take a SLIGHTLY -EV situation?
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin

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I'm wondering how you have the bankroll for the $55s.

If you want to Gigabet Dilemna the shortstack, why don't you just call and hope the BB gets out of the way? Do you really want to risk your entire stack with 62o because you vastly misunderstood what it meant to take a SLIGHTLY -EV situation?

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this has nothing to do with the gigabet dilemna. and if the shortstack didnt push i would be risking my entire stack here. you have no idea what you are talking about
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin


Just fold, not the best time to go nuts.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin

and this is clearly +EV if the BB doesnt call.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:42 PM
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Just fold, not the best time to go nuts.

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what about a more suitable holding, say Q9?
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin


Q9o much stronger....tough to say, allin should be fine.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:46 PM
Paxosmotic Paxosmotic is offline
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm wondering how you have the bankroll for the $55s.

If you want to Gigabet Dilemna the shortstack, why don't you just call and hope the BB gets out of the way? Do you really want to risk your entire stack with 62o because you vastly misunderstood what it meant to take a SLIGHTLY -EV situation?

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this has nothing to do with the gigabet dilemna. and if the shortstack didnt push i would be risking my entire stack here. you have no idea what you are talking about

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If you push all in, you are risking your entire stack. The big blind could easily call, since your raise would represent only 1/3rd of his entire stack. Doing anything but folding 62o here is horrendous. And for more reasons why, here's Einbert.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> 14,958,687,744 games 28.047 secs 533,343,592 games/sec
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 68.8831 % [ 00.68 00.01 ] { AA-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K2s, QJs-Q2s, JTs-J2s, T9s, AKo-A2o,
KQo-K2o, QJo-Q2o, JTo-J2o, T9o }
Hand 2: 31.1169 % [ 00.30 00.01 ] { 62o }
</pre><hr />

And we have to figure out how often BB comes along, but if he comes along 0% of the time, we are contributing 39% of a pot where we only have 31% equity.

This should be a fold.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin

62 for me a definite fold, Q-9 probable push unless I know the next to act loves to gamble.
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