Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > 2+2 Communities > Other Other Topics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-15-2005, 01:43 PM
judgesmails judgesmails is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 1
Default Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

I went to the doctor yesterday. I arrived at 1 pm for a 1:15 appointment. I waited in the waiting room until 1:45, and then in the examination room for another half an hour before the doctor saw me.

This is very typical for doctor appointments. Why?

Are they too stupid to learn how to adjust their schedules after years of inconveniencing their customers or are they just inconsiderate?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-15-2005, 01:45 PM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 9
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

[ QUOTE ]
Are they too stupid to learn how to adjust their schedules after years of inconveniencing their customers or are they just inconsiderate?

[/ QUOTE ]

Inconsiderate. They're doctors. Why should they be bothered with your schedule?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-15-2005, 01:50 PM
swede123 swede123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 366
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

I'm sure lack of consideration is an issue with some doctors. However, I think a bigger factor is that their job is pretty darn varied. What if their first appointment of the day is a simple exam, but during the exam they discover some problems, have to run some tests and so on. The normal 30 minute exam suddenly took an hour and just like that they are behind schedule.

Perhaps the receptionists need to be better about building in reasonable buffers into their schedules.

Anyway, that's my take.

Swede
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-15-2005, 01:53 PM
Nathan183 Nathan183 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Ontario
Posts: 241
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

I think it is scheduled such that if everything goes quickly, it will work out right. Of course, things always take a little longer, and appointments get backed up.

Essentially, their time is probably worth more than ours, so us waiting for an hour is better than them waiting 15 minutes in between appointments.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-15-2005, 02:01 PM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 9
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

This doesn't explain why every doctor and every receptionist are late for every appointment. The time alloted should at least be some average appointment time, but they're always late because they just don't care.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-15-2005, 02:07 PM
swede123 swede123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 366
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

[ QUOTE ]
This doesn't explain why every doctor and every receptionist are late for every appointment. The time alloted should at least be some average appointment time, but they're always late because they just don't care.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the problem is compounded by the patients. My wife did an internship with a family practice last summer, and the one thing she noticed is that the typical patient of a family doctor is a borderline hypochondriac who considers his/her doctor a great advisor for all kinds of ails, health related or not.

Maybe it's a vicious cycle where the patients end up taking too long, knowing that the doctor is really hard to get an appointment with, causing the doctor's time to fill up even more and making new appointments even more difficult.

Swede
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-15-2005, 02:59 PM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 301
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

I work diligently on this problem in my office. The factors:

1. Doctors fail to schedule the amount of time they will need

2. Patients take such variable amounts of time

3. Patients often arrive late

4. Doctors get comfortable with being behind since they are always behind, so they don't address it

5. Checkin procedures cause flow problems, especially referral forms, which patients often arrive without and which their insurance companies often require

6. Urgent overbooked appointments



#5 just sucks, because no one can follow all the rules of all the different products (I accept 39 products for Blue Cross alone) - all designed to get you to not seek care.

#1 and #4 are real and a big problem. Doctors have to keep working constantly and be efficient because the bureaucracy rules make overhead so expensive. However, when 90% of your patients wait >10 minutes, the problem is you. We have truth in scheduling in my office. I book what I can comfortably see, no more

#6 can be addressed by open access scheduling: you lock down a few appointment slots that are not released until 24 hours beforehand. That way if the need is significant we get you in that day, often within an hour or two. It works extremely well for the primary docs because they can send the person to see me that day, often right then.

#2 is not so bad in my profession but is brutal in primary care. I have, however, spent a fair amount of time thinking about what it is people need and want to know and how efficiently I can transmit that information. E.g., for any patient who asks me what some spot is, whenever appropriate the first word out of my mouth is "harmless."

#3 exists. People are rude or delayed a lot more than they used to be.

Matt
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-15-2005, 03:26 PM
Sifmole Sifmole is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 0
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sure lack of consideration is an issue with some doctors. However, I think a bigger factor is that their job is pretty darn varied. What if their first appointment of the day is a simple exam, but during the exam they discover some problems, have to run some tests and so on. The normal 30 minute exam suddenly took an hour and just like that they are behind schedule.

Perhaps the receptionists need to be better about building in reasonable buffers into their schedules.

Anyway, that's my take.

Swede

[/ QUOTE ]

There is only one problem with this theory -- try being their first appt in the morning; they will still be late. Really, they will. Try it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-15-2005, 03:58 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 8
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

[ QUOTE ]
I went to the doctor yesterday. I arrived at 1 pm for a 1:15 appointment. I waited in the waiting room until 1:45, and then in the examination room for another half an hour before the doctor saw me.

This is very typical for doctor appointments. Why?

Are they too stupid to learn how to adjust their schedules after years of inconveniencing their customers or are they just inconsiderate?

[/ QUOTE ]
Who the [censored] are you, you insignificant little cretin? Don't question the doctor - he's much more important than you are. Now take your little bitching ass and sit it down in the waiting room like all the other dirty little plebes.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-15-2005, 04:44 PM
phage phage is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: SF, CA
Posts: 7
Default Re: Why can\'t doctors keep their appointments?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I went to the doctor yesterday. I arrived at 1 pm for a 1:15 appointment. I waited in the waiting room until 1:45, and then in the examination room for another half an hour before the doctor saw me.

This is very typical for doctor appointments. Why?

Are they too stupid to learn how to adjust their schedules after years of inconveniencing their customers or are they just inconsiderate?

[/ QUOTE ]
Who the [censored] are you, you insignificant little cretin? Don't question the doctor - he's much more important than you are. Now take your little bitching ass and sit it down in the waiting room like all the other dirty little plebes.

[/ QUOTE ]
Exactly, Don't you realize that they are taking time away from their important lives to deal with your petty issues....
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.