Good fold?

AleoMagus · #1 07-15-2005, 07:51 AM

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) converter

SB ($24.35)
BB ($105.55)
Hero ($115.60)
MP ($38.60)
CO ($121.20)
Button ($54.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $2.75, 1 fold, CO calls $2.75, 1 fold, SB calls $2.25, BB calls $1.75.

Flop: ($11) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $10, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls $10.

Turn: ($31) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $40, Hero calls $20.

River: ($111) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $52.8 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $163.80

Regards
Brad S

trevorwc · #2 07-15-2005, 08:02 AM

With no knowledge of the opponent, I'm probably making this call. I think you're good at least 1 out of 3 times (which you need to be in order to make it profitable. I think you'll see A7, QJ, even AK enough times. Not that I think you're necessarily ahead here, but I think in the long run this is a profitable call.

BirdieLongSocks · #3 07-15-2005, 08:03 AM

Raise more preflop, the flop lead is good.

Turn, I would check call depending on player. You have the flush out there so you dont wanna be raised and praing for a 4 outer.

Yes I think its a good fold.

AleoMagus · #4 07-15-2005, 08:13 AM

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I think you'll see A7, QJ, even AK enough times.

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Villain showed after.... and had none of these

A8s (diamonds)

Regards
Brad S

Ghazban · #5 07-15-2005, 09:21 AM

Why did you call the turn minraise? Are you assuming your Queen-high flush will be good if a fourth heart comes? I'd probably fold to the raise there if I believed he had the flush. I don't like redrawing to a one-card flush that isn't the nuts. You can't call the minraise on the turn only assuming your four boat outs are good.

jkkkk · #6 07-15-2005, 09:26 AM

Fold the turn.

fuzzbox · #7 07-15-2005, 09:30 AM

You can fold it on the turn. What hand check/calls the flop and check/minraises a turned 3rd heart ?

Actually - now that I think about it, your call is ok, you have a good high heart and a full-house redraw.

Well done (I might check-behind the turn, because I hate to see a check-call flop and a flush card hit the turn. I usually check behind, and call a reasonable bet on the river (or fill up and take his stack).

rikz · #8 07-15-2005, 10:32 AM

Is anybody else so tight that they fold AQo preflop in UTG?

EDIT: Oh, it's 6-max. If this was full ring, anybody fold preflop? I guess in 6-max, this is a much stronger hand preflop? I haven't played much 6-max.

In [a full ring game in] CO or on the Button, I'll raise AQo. But UTG, I usually fold. Also, even in CO or Button, I'll fold AQo to a standard raise ahead of me even though I'll raise if it's folded to me.

Once raising preflop, the rest of this line looks good to me without a read on villain.

After he advertised his bluff on the river, make a note to try and trap him where you really do have a strong hand and can let him bluff his stack off.

I find it tough to play against a guy who can make these kinds of moves because you're playing for your stack on almost every hand, often with good - but not great - hands like top 2 pair on a 3-flush and 3-straight board like this one (even though KT not hearts seems unlikely).

Without a read, though, good fold on the river. Villain did a good job representing a flush, so I'd try to find a better spot to get my money in.

Maulik · #9 07-15-2005, 10:42 AM

in your situation I would now feel the correct move on the turn is to push all-in or fold. (but what do I know).

IamLeach · #10 07-15-2005, 10:49 AM

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If this was full ring, anybody fold preflop?

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I admit thatn when I first saw the hand and didn't see that it was 6 max I thought the raise was a little strange myself. Honestly I liked the raise even in a full ring, just not as a standard play. The raise has the fold equity here, I mean I wouldn't be trying for a multiway pot here. I think i'd make this play in a full ring a about 10-20% of the time considering on how the table is. However I almost always, 80-90% of the time, at least limp in with it and will call a min raise or even a bigger raise if the raiser is directly on my left aloowing me to close the action and provided there are a couple other callers. Like i said I don't want to be in a multiway here, But i'll at least look at the flop if the conditions are right. I think AQ is a good hand and will be the best hand preflop a good amount of the time.