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Old 07-15-2005, 06:42 AM
burgi burgi is offline
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Default HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

Hi,
ok, this situation came up several times lately in my 30+3 SNG's at Party.
I was the big stack on the bubble and just destroyed my opponents on it, pushing any 2 because the other 3 were all kind of low on chips and nobody wanted to bust out in 4th.
Anyway, at one point on the bubble, the chips were distributed so that my 3 opponents all had about 400, and I had 6800 with 300 big blinds.
Ok, so then, the next person busts, and we're down to top 3. Then the next person busts and it's HU.
In HU, I have about 7400 chips and my opponent the additional 600.
How do you play in these situations with blinds at 150/300? Push any 2? become more passive and wait for a decent hand? Or how do you play?
I found myself having difficulty with that and even lost on several occasions eventhough I had such a huge chiplead.
Help appreciated!
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:14 AM
Phill S Phill S is offline
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

Gotta play any two, he has to.

If he gets himself back in, say 3K to your 5K, then you just play your normal heads up game.

Taking the conservative route with the SB is an option, but rarely the right one.

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Old 07-15-2005, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

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Hi,
ok, this situation came up several times lately in my 30+3 SNG's at Party.
I was the big stack on the bubble and just destroyed my opponents on it, pushing any 2 because the other 3 were all kind of low on chips and nobody wanted to bust out in 4th.
Anyway, at one point on the bubble, the chips were distributed so that my 3 opponents all had about 400, and I had 6800 with 300 big blinds.
Ok, so then, the next person busts, and we're down to top 3. Then the next person busts and it's HU.
In HU, I have about 7400 chips and my opponent the additional 600.
How do you play in these situations with blinds at 150/300? Push any 2? become more passive and wait for a decent hand? Or how do you play?
I found myself having difficulty with that and even lost on several occasions eventhough I had such a huge chiplead.
Help appreciated!

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When its that lopsided, there is no reason to push literally any 2. You know hes gonna call, so why push a hand like 26o that might have very tiny EV only to double him up 70% of the time when you can fold and find something thats going to win a good 15-20% more often usually the next hand.

Basically wait for something in the top 70% or so and go with it.
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

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When its that lopsided, there is no reason to push literally any 2. You know hes gonna call, so why push a hand like 26o that might have very tiny EV only to double him up 70% of the time when you can fold and find something thats going to win a good 15-20% more often usually the next hand.

Basically wait for something in the top 70% or so and go with it.

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The problem I have had with that though is because the blinds are so high 150/300 or higher, it might take me several hands to get such a good hand, but in the meantime, my opponent already added about 1000 chips to his stack or so. This still leaves me with a much higher stack, but when he beats me once then, he is right in it again.
See my point? I'm not saying that you are wrong and I did try to play it the way you just described, but exactly what I described above did happen.
I'm just trying to figure out the best way to play this situation, as I have tried both ways described above, and sometimes they worked, and sometimes they didn't. Just want to find out what other people think the best way to play this is, so I can just decide to play it that way, and if it doesn't work out, so be it.
But, thanks for your input and help in trying to figure this out for me!
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

In this situation, I'm not necessarily pushing any 2. Others have spelled out why. I am, however, calling his all-in with any 2.
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

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In this situation, I'm not necessarily pushing any 2. Others have spelled out why. I am, however, calling his all-in with any 2.

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I like this strategy!! I think I will try it the next time this situation comes up!
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

In your example with stacks of 7400 and 600 and blinds of 150/300 you should push any hand that is at least 37.5% against any 2.
DYSW?
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

DYSW? What does that mean? If I understand why? Maybe?

If that what it means, I think I do! Because I have to post the blind as is and there is also his blind in the pot and I therefore have the correct odds. Is that correct?
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

Isn't this forum jargon ("do you see why?")?

HU you can simply fail your decision based on pot odds as +CEV means +$EV.
Another possibility to find out if you should shove or not is to calculate the likelihood of winning for the possible outcomes. This is quite easy as the relationship between the likelihood of winning is linear to your stack size. I.e. if you hold 80% of all chips then your likelihood of winning is 80%.
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: HU with Huge Stack: How to Play?

wait

you'll call his push with any 2, but you won't push with any 2?

explain why, please?
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