Pot limit Omaha 8. all the money in on the turn

[twistedbeats]

i got all my money in on the turn with what i thought was a big freeroll. turns out, i just had the backdoor flush draw. would anyone have waited to commit the rest of their stack until the flush got there? i had been playing with the guy for 3 hours, and i'm not 100% that he would have gone all in with just a high or just a low.


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Hand #74003-5612 at Regina (Pot Limit Omaha 8/b)
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Started at 18/Feb/03 12:57:25

LoneWolf2 is at seat 0 with $23.85.
2cardGUTZ is at seat 1 with $70.35.
sparky101 is at seat 2 with $20.
Schumi1 is at seat 3 with $31.40.
Zorro99 is at seat 4 with $33.35.
twistedbeats is at seat 5 with $228.95.
chumpchange is at seat 6 with $314.65.
Darabby is at seat 7 with $36.75.
Miraklet is at seat 8 with $11.50.
gamblerpokker is at seat 9 with $155.35.
The button is at seat 0.

2cardGUTZ posts the small blind of $.50.
sparky101 posts the big blind of $1.

LoneWolf2: -- -- -- --
2cardGUTZ: -- -- -- --
sparky101: -- -- -- --
Schumi1: -- -- -- --
Zorro99: -- -- -- --
twistedbeats: 2h 4s As 3s
chumpchange: -- -- -- --
Darabby: -- -- -- --
Miraklet: -- -- -- --
gamblerpokker: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

Schumi1 folds. Zorro99 calls $1. twistedbeats
raises $3. chumpchange calls $3. Darabby folds.
Miraklet folds. gamblerpokker folds. LoneWolf2
folds. 2cardGUTZ folds. sparky101 folds. Zorro99
calls $2.

Flop (board: 5s 2c 9d):

Zorro99 checks. twistedbeats bets $10.50.
chumpchange raises $21. Zorro99 folds. twistedbeats
calls $10.50.

Turn (board: 5s 2c 9d 7s):

twistedbeats checks. chumpchange bets $52.50.
twistedbeats raises to $204.95, goes all-in.
chumpchange calls $152.45.

River (board: 5s 2c 9d 7s 9h):

(no action in this round)


Showdown:

twistedbeats shows 2h 4s As 3s.
twistedbeats has 2h As 2c 9d 9h: two pair, nines and deuces.
twistedbeats has 7 5 3 2 A (low).
chumpchange shows 2s 3d 4d Ac.
chumpchange has 2s Ac 2c 9d 9h: two pair, nines and deuces.
chumpchange has 7 5 3 2 A (low).


Hand #74003-5612 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $462.40.
chumpchange wins $114.85 of a $229.70 pot with two pair, nines and deuces (high)
twistedbeats wins $114.85 of a $229.70 pot with two pair, nines and deuces (high
chumpchange wins $114.85 of a $229.70 pot with 7 5 3 2 A (low).
twistedbeats wins $114.85 of a $229.70 pot with 7 5 3 2 A (low).
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[MHoydilla]

There is no problem with you pushing all in on the turn here as you have the nut low and 14 (6+8) outs to a straight or a flush. As it turned out he had the same hand as you minus the flush draw. So when he called you were freerolling for the high end of the pot with the flush, with absolutely no chance of getting less than half the pot. After knowing your oppentents hand you get 50% of the pot 80% of the time, (32/40 nonflush cards), and 75% of the pot 20% of the time(8/40 flush cards). Sounds like an oppertunity pros wait and hope all night for. Played very well Twisted, good hand.

[Matt Flynn]

In a loose game against a loose player your redraws are enough to justify going all in. In many live games, a lot of players know not to bet the pot with a one-way hand (even a low that can't be counterfeited), which changes your play drastically. Against a solid player without a lot of spunk you might well call the turn and then lay down on the river if your flush or straight didn't come, because if he bet the pot into you on the river you'd know you were getting quartered.