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Old 07-11-2005, 11:46 PM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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Default Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

....punish those who are too aggressive. These guys are too aggressive. Who hates? Who loves?

Party Poker (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
I raised and they all called. The converter is on crack.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks..... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 07-11-2005, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

I think you need to tell us your plan.
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Old 07-11-2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

Umm, let them raise your bet on the flop then check/raise them on the river (or maybe turn?)???
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

Preflop action isn't important here?
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

assuming you opened in SB and aggro BB called, I like flop bet/call, and check/raise turn. Most overaggro players will raise flop w/wide range and probably bet turn w/almost everything they'll raise the flop with after you just call the flop bet.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

I think it's not a good flop to check here... Not raggy enough . THere is a LOT of possible draw considering everyone limped and you have to charge them for that. Unless you know someone late position will bet when checked to you have to bet here I think the flop is way too drawy to not bet...
Too many possible draw to let it checked behind.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

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There is a LOT of possible draw considering everyone limped and you have to charge them for that

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He'll charge them double when someone inevitably bets, at the price of occasionally getting to three bet.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

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someone inevitably bets

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Assuming he is a TAG, only douche bad and idiots will bet this flop when a tag raise OOP preflop than check it vs 4 people in the pot... They usually hav overpair or just hit their set and want to be tricky... If a tag check that and I have JTo I will be more than happy to check behind and charge him 2 bet on the turn when he see he missed his c/r and bet the turn like an idiot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] after I just completed my str8/flush for free
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

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someone inevitably bets

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Assuming he is a TAG, only douche bad and idiots will bet this flop when a tag raise OOP preflop than check it vs 4 people in the pot... They usually hav overpair or just hit their set and want to be tricky... If a tag check that and I have JTo I will be more than happy to check behind and charge him 2 bet on the turn when he see he missed his c/r and bet the turn like an idiot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] after I just completed my str8/flush for free

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This is a set up play. When I raise AK-AJ in similar situations, I want the punks to give me a free card. I wnat them wondering what is coming when I check.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: Something I am trying to do 20% of the time to......

IF they are that agressive it's a good place to bet-3bet I think [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].. Anyway since they are so aggro, it's a good play by I think that with such a drawy board you should just let it checked around but since they are very aggro I doubt it will...
Why wasn,t it raised preflop if they are agrro ? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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