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Old 07-11-2005, 02:40 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Calling a push with overpair when board pairs

Villain has a VPIP of 40. Anyone thinks this is a bad call? I thought about it for a good while.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t715)
CO (t1460)
Button (t1810)
SB (t1265)
BB (t915)
UTG (t800)
MP1 (t1035)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t70.

Flop: (t245) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, UTG calls t220.

Turn: (t745) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG pushes all-in [t550], <font color="red">Hero calls</font>
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Old 07-11-2005, 04:44 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Calling a push with overpair when board pairs

You have half your stack in the pot, I can't see how you can fold this. I think you should bet less on the flop though. Still wouldn't fold the turn, personally.
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Old 07-11-2005, 04:51 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Calling a push with overpair when board pairs

Raise a tiny bit more preflop, and then you get to push the flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-11-2005, 04:58 PM
tminus tminus is offline
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Default Re: Calling a push with overpair when board pairs

without knowing what VPIP is...?

i like the preflop raise and the flop bet
youre already layed down half your stack on this so i call the turn too
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:05 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: Calling a push with overpair when board pairs

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Raise a tiny bit more preflop, and then you get to push the flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I'm experimenting with how much I can raise and still get callers. I know the conventional wisdom on these forums is "raise at least 5xBB with AA/KK and they will call you anyway since they are morons". I don't really agree with that for mainly two reasons. First, poor players fold with hands they want to call with. Second, more importantly, good players fold hands they want to call with that I like my chances against (AK, AQ, JJ) since the 5xBB raise is like sending up a flare.

Level 1 I raise more than level 2 though, for whatever it is worth.
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