Am I a donk for not knowing how to play it?

[USCSigma1097]

PP 20+2

UTG 180
BUTTON 4400
SB 800
HERO 2620

BB is t300

UTG folds
Button calls
SB folds
Dealt to hero Q 3

Flop comes A Q 3

Hero checks Button bets 300 Hero Calls
Flop 6
Hero checks button bets 600, hero raises 1200, button raises all in...

What in the world should I do here??? If I call I have a massive chip lead if I win... if I lose I bust out of a tourney when a player has half a blind left...

As far as reads, UTG and SB are donks. Button has been using his stack to push table around and has not done anything that I would consider "out of line"... If anything I consider him the best player at the table.

How do you guys play this?

[rydazzle]

There is a similar post about bottom two pair on the forum now.

You need to check-raise the flop, bottom 2 pair is strong enough to check raise but with a call loses value fast. You are ahead and there's a nice pot, get your money in.

I posted this to the other guy - you are in a "dark tunnel" with the call and now I feel you are pot committed. If he hit Ax so be it, you dont have enough time to worry about that in SNGs

[The Don]

I call it... You are ahead of Ax (or maybe a total bluff taking advantage of the bubble) 90% of the time here. Raise to 900 on the flop though.

[gildwulf]

You need to put all your money in on a combination of the flop and the turn...how you do this is pretty subjective.

[ilya]

With the stacks as they are, I probably check-fold the flop. I am scared of the button limp: he likely realizes that you and the SB will fold most hands if he pushes with UTG this short, making it more likely than usual that he's slowplaying a big hand.

[USCSigma1097]

Ilya,

You can check fold two pair on the flop??? I don't know, but this can't be right.

Sigma

[ilya]

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Ilya,

You can check fold two pair on the flop??? I don't know, but this can't be right.

Sigma

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Mebbe it's too weak. However, UTG is all-in next hand and SB is also a lot shorter than Hero.
It also feels strange to fold AKs to a Villain preflop push in this spot, yet it's clearly correct.

[USCSigma1097]

I know it's correct to fold AKs, but fold two pair on the flop. I was thinking that I might should fire off a pot sized bet or maybe a 1.5 pot sized bet on flop and go from there...

thoughts?

Sigma

[threeonefour]

if you are afraid of being bubbled and you should have check raised allin or bet allin.

big stacks love to push allin because they know that middle stacks will commit chips trying to show their strength but will still fold to the allin raise because they don't want to go out 4th when there is a guy with a .5BB stack

if i played that hand i would have probably bet the pot or when allin on the flop. If i bet the pot and he called, I would go allin as long as another A didn't come off on the turn

[djj6835]

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It also feels strange to fold AKs to a Villain preflop push in this spot, yet it's clearly correct.


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This situation would be more like folding AA pre flop than folding AK.