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Old 07-08-2005, 08:41 PM
Etric Etric is offline
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Default MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

Game Over.


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Old 07-08-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

Yes, I've got two questions. I'm assuming you followed the system as closely as possible, but there are two main areas of play where Ed didn't give extensive details. So,

What was your strategy for playing the blinds (preflop)?

How often did you check/fold on the flop, and why?

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Old 07-08-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

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Game Over.


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No questions, but a comment, this doesn't mean anything. Noone knows if you actually played the way as described to begin with.
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

Also of interest would be what he did when his stack reached 40BB+
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Old 07-09-2005, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

It happens. My stats look like very good fixed limit stats. My real fixed limit stats are merely good, but I've suffered downswings just like this in limit twice over the last few hundred thousand hands. (And people with honest to god very good limit stats have had similar downswings.)
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

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It happens. My stats look like very good fixed limit stats. My real fixed limit stats are merely good, but I've suffered downswings just like this in limit twice over the last few hundred thousand hands. (And people with honest to god very good limit stats have had similar downswings.)

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All that is true, and it is also true that a bankroll should probably be greater than 350bb's (hopefully it was in OP's case).

However, this is a big enough downswing over a big enough sample size to suggest that there is likely to be some problem.

Since I and others have had success (with a much smaller sample size in my case) with Ed's system, I certainly can't say that the problem is with Ed's system. It would be beneficial for all of us if OP discussed the issues others have brought up in this thread and see if there is a difference between our collective approaches to the system.

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Old 07-09-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

Play blinds with the same hands as late position.

I almost never check-folded the flop.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: MIller Short Stack System - Busted!

I left at 30 or higher BB. I reloaded at 15BB. I bought in for 20BB.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:22 PM
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Play blinds with the same hands as late position.

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I play blinds the same as late position, but I'm not sure that's the ultimate solution. There is a positional consideration postflop, even with this system, in my opinion.

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I almost never check-folded the flop.

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I think this may be your problem, if your issue is not variance.

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Old 07-09-2005, 05:24 PM
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I left at 30 or higher BB. I reloaded at 15BB. I bought in for 20BB.

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I do the same; seems right on, although I've been experimenting with buying in for 25bb instead of 20bb at extremely loose tables (like where guys will call a 10bb preflop raise w Q4 offsuit).

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