33 ITM, call here?

[Matt R.]

Party $20+2. Do you call here? If not, what's your calling range?

Edited to add: The pusher seemed to play pretty standard on the bubble -- not overly aggressive. ITM play's only gone on a few hands, and I have no reads in particular.

#Game No : 2319948253
***** Hand History for Game 2319948253 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:13702129 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, July 06, 16:47:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 14003 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: bigboatn ( $2690 )
Seat 5: MattR81 ( $2580 )
Seat 6: michael5537 ( $2730 )
Trny:13702129 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MattR81 [ 3d 3s ]
michael5537 folds.
bigboatn is all-In [2540]
MattR81 is all-In [2280]
>You have options at Table 13804 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 6d, Td ]
>You have options at Table 13850 Table!.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
bigboatn shows [ 4d, 4s ] two pairs, sixes and fours.
MattR81 shows [ 3d, 3s ] two pairs, sixes and threes.
bigboatn wins 110 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, sixes and fours.
bigboatn wins 5160 chips from the main pot with two pairs, sixes and fours.
MattR81 finished in third place and won $40.
gg
MattR81 has left the table.
Game #2319949867 starts.

[kyro]

The blinds are not high enough here for you to be praying for a coinflip.

[Matt R.]

I agree. But the other side of the argument, and what I was thinking at the time, is that I was willing to take a coinflip to be in a commanding position to go for first should I win. And it's essentially like a heads-up hand, and I don't fold too many pocket pairs with <9 BB's when it's HU. Maybe I like to call too much ITM though. What do you need here to call?

[kyro]

Look at the stacks. You're not in trouble. Plenty of time to push that same 33 from the button in 2 hands.

I'd call with 77+...maybe 66.

[gildwulf]

The problem with 22-33 is that you are only a slight favorite even to almost any steal. So even if he's stealing your blind you are only a slight favorite...

I would call this heads up but not three players with an OK stack.

[octaveshift]

[ QUOTE ]
But the other side of the argument, and what I was thinking at the time, is that I was willing to take a coinflip to be in a commanding position to go for first should I win. And it's essentially like a heads-up hand, and I don't fold too many pocket pairs with <9 BB's when it's HU. Maybe I like to call too much ITM though. What do you need here to call?

[/ QUOTE ]

But it's not a HU hand, it's 3 handed, and this guy voluntarily pushed.

With no read, I would call with TT+, AJ+.

[Matt R.]

Wow. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that seems really tight to me. I plugged in some random hands in poker stove that seem fairly reasonable -- AA-22, Axs, A6o+, K8s+, K9o+, QJ. My equity versus this range is 45.3%. Pot odds dictate I should call if this range is correct. Note that questionable hands that I left out (maybe he'll push Ax, or more suited kings), are hands that I'm ahead of.

I do think this could be a fold (and I thought so afterwards), but I think it's way closer than only calling TT+, AJ+ here.

[ravensfan]

I'm curious but wouldn't you be an underdog vs. mid SC, such as 78s? Also, if he's a standard player and if pushing this hard (he's at 8.5x bb and all in), he may have a decent hand. Or would he push all in any time he pushed? (Yes, i'm new to the STTs) I don't know when it's standard to push all in. I've heard 10x BB, but i'm curious if this is the norm, or if standard raises - 3x bb, apply down to say, 7-8x bb.

[octaveshift]

[ QUOTE ]
Wow. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that seems really tight to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Gap concept in action! (I am not calling a push with 33.)

I am not saying my path is the correct one, but it's been working out pretty well for me. I don't see a reason to risk my whole stack on a 50/50 shot here.

[raaustge]

I fold. Heres my reasoning. You arent in trouble and sure it could be a coinflip, but even then your only a slight favorite. Isnt it possible the villian is holding a bigger pocket pair in which case you are a huge dog? Come to think of it he was. Doesnt make sense to me to risk here. Now i dont mind pushing your 33 from the button because your the one pushing, and they dont know what there up against. But calling all your chips when you could be a huge dog/slight favorite with your decent chip size isnt the right play here. You can wait for a better spot. Just some deep thoughts from a crappy poker player.