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Old 07-06-2005, 04:21 PM
pergesu pergesu is offline
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Default Tens in SB, there\'s an EP raise - $33

Fold preflop, push like I did, or just call and see a flop?


***** Hand History for Game 2319804912 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13701409 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Wednesday, July 06, 16:15:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 11278 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: GMMAN0819 ( $2265 )
Seat 3: Silvije ( $1195 )
Seat 4: jbreitlow ( $740 )
Seat 9: mdbiglan ( $1680 )
Seat 8: j6kennedy ( $535 )
Seat 7: frozensanka ( $1585 )
Trny:13701409 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to frozensanka [ Ts Tc ]
j6kennedy calls [100].
mdbiglan raises [450].
GMMAN0819 folds.
Silvije folds.
jbreitlow folds.
frozensanka is all-In [1485]
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:24 PM
Benholio Benholio is offline
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Default Re: Tens in SB, there\'s an EP raise - $33

I think I would push this sometimes and fold this sometimes, but never call. Absent any reads, I'm really not sure. Probably 60/40 for push.
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:27 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Re: Tens in SB, there\'s an EP raise - $33

What sort of range do you pust Villain on after he pops an UTG limper UTG+1 with 16BB? How does TT fare against this range? Now, look at your stack size. Do you really need to get involved here?
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:31 PM
pergesu pergesu is offline
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Default Re: Tens in SB, there\'s an EP raise - $33

I'm almost definitely no better than a coinflip...and I've got a healthy stack. So no need to tangle.
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:33 PM
ewing55 ewing55 is offline
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Default Re: Tens in SB, there\'s an EP raise - $33

I'm guessing BB will get out of the way, UTG has said he likes his hand, UTG+1 says he *really* likes his hand. UTG is getting desperate and may think this is the time to push/call, UTG+1 will probably call (esp. if UTG folds), because he's put a lot into the pot already and would be getting decent odds.

You're in a world of hurt if someone has a bigger PP, and almost a coin flip with two overs. Absent any reads I'd fold probably 80% of the time. You're doing OK and don't need the pot. (Well, I mean the chips in the middle. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img])

-------------Jeff
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:44 PM
treeofwisdom7 treeofwisdom7 is offline
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Default Re: Tens in SB, there\'s an EP raise - $33

what i would do here might depend on how tight the table is and how much FE you have.

This looks like a folding hand where at best your up against AK AQ but also there is a good chance your up against KK QQ .
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:06 PM
Vee Quiva Vee Quiva is offline
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Default Re: Tens in SB, there\'s an EP raise - $33

If I read this right you are in the big blind. All in is the option if you have seen this player lay a hand down to a reraise and it takes his positional advantage away.

I don't like it with the original limper still left to act.

Overall it's probably a fold at this stage of the tournament. If the blinds are higher then push looks better.
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