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Old 07-06-2005, 04:15 AM
rivered_again rivered_again is offline
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Default worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

I ran into a very "unique" player today at 0.5/1 on PartyPoker. With stats of 68/15/3, he mostly fit the "maniac" description, but took it to a whole other level. I'm talking constant raising with no hand and no draw. Capping the river with 3 high and being shown a full house. This sort of thing happened multiple times. I was "priviledged" enough to play heads up twice with this player and crushed him both times, while being raised and 3-bet into. My bankroll thanks him.

Bluffing can be exciting, because sometimes you can get people to lay down better hands. But there's a time and a place for it, and micro limit online poker is NOT one of them! People are especially passive and will call with weak pairs and most draws. Hoping to bluff them out of a pot is almost never going to work.

So I added this player to my buddies list so I could seek him out in the future. Later that night, I saw he was playing at a $2/4 table! That's beyond my bankroll (and perhaps skill), so I just watched. He hadn't changed his style at all. I saw him go from $80 to $130 to $30 to $140 to broke in 30 minutes. People at the table were openly insulting him (which I never did when he was at my table... "don't tap the aquarium"), but it didn't seem to bother him; he kept right on trying to bluff everyone out of every pot and failing almost every time.

So that's the worst player I've ever seen online. Tries to bluff people out of every pot, not learning from the fact that it almost never seems to work. Not content to hemmorhage money at 0.5/1 with a horribly broken style of play, he decides to move up to a much higher limit! Great choice!



Just to show I'm not making this up, here is a typical hand played by this player. I edited the hand history so bison's would show him as the Hero. (This is NOT me playing!!!)

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (19.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kc 9c (one pair, jacks).
Button has 6d 6h (full house, sixes full of jacks).
Outcome: Button wins 23.25 BB. </font>

Anyone got any stories of players that are so bad you feel sorry for them?
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:21 AM
Paxosmotic Paxosmotic is offline
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

I know a guy who has never been able to get past break-even at Party's .5/1 tables. I play him in home games occasionally, and he honestly truly beileves he's god's gift to poker. He's not quite an "any two cards can win" person, he's almost a "any two cards I play can win" person. He is routinely one of the first people to bust during our games, yet blames it on cold cards every time. It's a real pleasure every time I get the chance to bust him.
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:22 AM
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

I played a guy at pacific a few months ago, this guys was playing $1/$2 and playing pretty much the same, he took every hand to SD, im not kidding u this guy went from $78 to $340 in about 1hour. He hit every draw, runner runner str8 and flush draw it was unbelievable. At 1 point he won about 7 pots in a row of about 20BB each with crap like J3o

1 hour later he was down to $30 and left the table. You wonder who these guys are, whether they are pros or high limit players working off a bit of tilt or what.
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:05 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

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whether they are pros or high limit players working off a bit of tilt or what.

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Many times they are but you can actually find "real" microplayers that play like that...
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:06 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

I never feel sorry for bad players, bring them on I say. I can buy shiny things because of them.

Some players are maniacs and while they bleed money everywhere, they have to on some level know what they are doing; gamboooling it up. So that in and of itself doesn't make them "bad" in my opinion, because they know that they're probably going to lose all their money.

Now this guy is a bad player. He has no clue at all as to what is going on. I lost this hand, but afterwards I sat there absolutely stunned for a few seconds at villains holding.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9d As (two pair, nines and fours).
Button has Qh Qs (two pair, queens and fours).
Outcome: Button wins 6.50 BB. </font>
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:25 AM
Mooski Mooski is offline
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

He thinks you have a 4?

I'm not a great player, I admit it, I'm only playing maybe 6-7 hours per week in the nanos, but I'm wondering why you're chasing with a A9o, especially when the flop misses you and a Tx has you beat.
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Old 07-06-2005, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

I've got a few people on my buddy list with 100% VPIP over a decent amount of hands. Always amazes me.

But I've got the craziest maniac ever, as well. Over 55 hands, he has a 96.36% VPIP, with a 60% PFR, 3.17 postflop aggression, and 65.31% went to showdown.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:06 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

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He thinks you have a 4?

I'm not a great player, I admit it, I'm only playing maybe 6-7 hours per week in the nanos, but I'm wondering why you're chasing with a A9o, especially when the flop misses you and a Tx has you beat.

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This is a button vs the blinds situation. I raise A9o here because button is trying to limp in with what I think is an awful hand, and my hand figures to be significantly better than it. Regardless of what hand button is playing here, open limping from the button is NEVER correct.

I'm not chasing here at all. I fully expect to be infront before the flop and on the flop. I am betting with what is more than likely the best hand. The board is paired, so the chances that the flop completely missed the other two players is very high, and my ace high is currently best.

This would be different if UTG limped in. I expect UTG to have a significantly stronger limping hand. When the button open limps, though, it shows that he has no idea what he is doing. He is a bad player with a bad hand, and I am giving up value by not exploiting my edge over him with a hand as strong as A9.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

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Regardless of what hand button is playing here, open limping from the button is NEVER correct.

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Well, let's not get TOO carried away. If the blinds will never fold to a raise, certainly limping is better option in some cases.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: worst player you\'ve ever seen? (low content)

I almost never put people on my buddy lists because the fish are easy enough to find... plus I don't like waiting for tables. I just pop in and start playing. But this guy I did. I almost felt sorry for him, he played so bad. Villain is the same guy in both hands.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has 4d 5d (two pair, aces and fours).
Hero has Qc Ad (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.75 BB. </font>

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ac Qh (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.25 BB. </font>


Must have had a flush draw in the second one. First one the river bet startled me a bit, so I just called, hoping there was no flush. What's that saying about 'Call 1 more bet on the river'?

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