Rafael Palmeiro

Hal 2000 · #1 07-04-2005, 03:51 AM

Should he go to the hall of fame??

Jack of Arcades · #2 07-04-2005, 04:01 AM

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I don't know, 3000 hits and 560 homers... seems kind've borderline to me.

hoopsie44 · #3 07-04-2005, 10:51 AM

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I don't know why people still debate his HOF credentials. 3000 hits, 500 hrs, along with Mays, Aaron, Murray. He is a mortal lock.

tolbiny · #4 07-04-2005, 11:02 AM

Deserves to be a first ballot.

pryor15 · #5 07-04-2005, 11:45 AM

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I don't know why people still debate his HOF credentials. 3000 hits, 500 hrs, along with Mays, Aaron, Murray. He is a mortal lock.

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b/c he uses a corked bat. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Triumph36 · #6 07-04-2005, 12:08 PM

He will go, but why do people doubt his credentials? He's been an All-Star only 4 times. He has almost never led the league in any significant statistical category. He has never won a World Series and has not even played in one. And his hits and home runs totals are inflated by having played in the juiced-ball era, not to mention playing in two of the best hitters parks in this era. He'll go, but I can see why there's a lot of questions about him.

Voltron87 · #7 07-04-2005, 12:17 PM

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He will go, but why do people doubt his credentials? He's been an All-Star only 4 times. He has almost never led the league in any significant statistical category. He has never won a World Series and has not even played in one. And his hits and home runs totals are inflated by having played in the juiced-ball era, not to mention playing in two of the best hitters parks in this era. He'll go, but I can see why there's a lot of questions about him.

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good post

sam h · #8 07-04-2005, 12:52 PM

Exactly. He'll end up going because people are obsessed with statistics that aren't era-adjusted. Palmeiro has been remarkably consistent but has never been one of the best players in his league. He has been top five in MVP voting only once! That said, there are other players already in the hall who are probably less deserving.

Jack of Arcades · #9 07-04-2005, 01:17 PM

Did people say the same thing about Eddie Murray? I sure missed it.

There are plenty of players in the Hall of Fame, deserving players, who were never the best in their league. They performed so consistently excellent that they outlasted everyone who was better than them.

PS: Raffy played a significant part of his career pre-1993, but only people "obsessed with statistics" would know that

Average park-adjusted SLG during Raffy's career: .421
Foxx: .422

hoopsie44 · #10 07-04-2005, 01:31 PM

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He has never won a World Series and has not even played in one. And his hits and home runs totals are inflated by having played in the juiced-ball era, not to mention playing in two of the best hitters parks in this era.

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Winning a World Series is a ridiculous criterion for HOF admission. Ted Williams and Ernie Banks never won a World Series either and should we devalue their numbers because they played in two of the most hitter friendly parks in baseball?