Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Tournament Poker > One-table Tournaments
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-02-2005, 09:35 PM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 160
Default Tell me what you think. 215.

Argument with a friend over this hand. Tell me your general thoughts, and then I'll post mine.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t3520)
UTG (t3080)
Button (t480)
SB (t2920)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t450</font>, 2 folds, Hero pushes t3520...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-02-2005, 09:38 PM
Jdiddy Jdiddy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 24
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

say arg ur lucky im a good player and i know better than to push with A5o to a raise from UTG on the bubble even tho id probably beat ur Q5o if i did....then fold
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 160
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

I have absolutely no idea what you are saying.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-02-2005, 09:49 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 316
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

[ QUOTE ]
I have absolutely no idea what you are saying.

[/ QUOTE ]

that's ditto for me! (what was that?!)

Anyway, UTG will need at least KK to call this...I like this play and your Hero's cards are irrelevant. Unless villain knows hero is making a move, he will lay this down enough of the time to make it a profitable play.

It would work better if short stack had a little less and villain/UTG did as well. IOW, if he calls, us lose, ur still ITM for sure, which is not the case here.

Anyway, this hand is what makes cards themselves so trivial and situations so important on the bubble with divergent stack sizes...its a beautiful thing.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-02-2005, 10:04 PM
11t 11t is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 283
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

I do this all the time with complete rags.

Sucks if he woke up to AA/KK and is about to punk you so be it.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-02-2005, 10:06 PM
freemoney freemoney is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: smooth-calling with aces
Posts: 889
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

this is so not the case its irrelevant what he needs when he will call with worse.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-02-2005, 10:36 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 27
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

[ QUOTE ]
this is so not the case its irrelevant what he needs when he will call with worse.

[/ QUOTE ]

bingo, which is why this push sucks unless, of course, I know him
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-03-2005, 12:02 AM
ravensfan ravensfan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: TDot
Posts: 34
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

Personally, i don't really like putting your tourney on the line for what is probably a semi bluff... You're big stack and are 20xBB right? Why risk getting called down by the only other threat at this point... If it wasn't UTG, fine, or if you have a read ... fine.
I thought the second post was talking about "the gap", FWIW
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-03-2005, 01:19 AM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 316
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this is so not the case its irrelevant what he needs when he will call with worse.

[/ QUOTE ]

bingo, which is why this push sucks unless, of course, I know him

[/ QUOTE ]

The point is that he won't call....
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-03-2005, 01:27 AM
adanthar adanthar is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 27
Default Re: Tell me what you think. 215.

[ QUOTE ]
The point is that he won't call....

[/ QUOTE ]

He won't? I've seen 86s make this call 'because you're raising every hand'.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.