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Old 07-01-2005, 11:32 AM
dondarias dondarias is offline
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Default Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Millionaire

Imagine the situation… You are on who wants to be a millionaire. You are on the £16 000 question with only a 50 : 50 life line remaining.

The question comes and unfortunately you haven’t a Scooby what the right answer is. You decide to use your one remaining lifeline. Two answers disappear and you still have no idea which of the remaining two answers are correct what do you do next.

(The £16 000 represents 12 Months Salary after tax to yourself and you have very little or no savings.)
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:48 AM
MikeL05 MikeL05 is offline
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Million

I'd pass and walk away with my 16,000. Unless I felt VERY strongly that this question was an aberration and that I had a very high likelihood of getting the next one(s).
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Million

Well we can take this to an EV approach. I believe the next level is 32000 which is twice that. So given you have a 50/50 chance of getting the right answer and well 50% of the time you make 16000 and 50% of the time you lose the EV value of guessing is 0 but you also have the option to walk away not answer the question and take 16000 so Im assuming the best value would be to walk away assuming you have no clue as to what the answer would be and it is a pure 50/50 guess
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Million

Whether or not a 50-50 guess is advisable from an EV standpoint depends on the level. The size of prizes doesn't always exactly double with each question, and getting a question wrong doesn't send you home with nothing except at the very lowest levels. According to Rule 6 on the official website, a 50-50 guess is:

EV-neutral on the $200 and $1000 questions;
-EV on the $300, $500, and $25000 questions;
+EV on $4k, $8k, $16k, and $50k-$1M questions;
a no-risk +EV freeroll on the $2k and $50k.

On the $16k question, for instance, you can either pass for a sure $8,000, or take a gamble with EV 8500 and SD 7500.

The "right" strategy for the game as a whole depends on how risk-averse you are and how linear your utility function for moderately large sums of money is.
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Old 07-02-2005, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Million

Reply above is correct.

Let me also add, that since the 32000 level is guaranteed, you get a free guess. So if you gamble and are right, you have an EV of higher than 32000.
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Old 07-02-2005, 11:12 AM
BlueBear BlueBear is offline
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Millionaire

This is where many players in the gameshow get it horribly wrong. If it is a pure 50-50 guess at the $16000 stage, a player should gamble at this point because the downside is $1000 (in the Australian version, probably the same in UK) and the potential upside is unlimited up to a million dollars.

Only an extremely risk adverse person (and very foolish in my opinion) would not gamble here.
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Old 07-02-2005, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Millionaire

If the player guesses correctly he will be entitled to a free 1 in 4 shot at he £32000 question. Guessing here is +EV but interestingly nearly any (non poker playing) person who I ask about this situation would not guess. As is the case for most people faced with this stuation on the show. I can only think the majority of the population is highly risk adverse. Ironically insurance companies take advantage this inherent risk aversion to sell –EV positions that people are more than happy to gamble on.

If guessing here meant gambling with your entire bankroll is the edge big enough for you to guess? Or would bankroll management considerations dictate you fold…..
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Old 07-02-2005, 02:22 PM
AlphaWice AlphaWice is offline
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Million

Funny how, the choice of whether to gamble or not hinges on how smart you are (at trivia questions.)
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Old 07-02-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Millionaire

It certainly is a question of bankroll, and general wealth of the contestant. If they're a student with debt of $20,000, then they should certainly take the $16,000 and run. I think the idea is that EVEN if they had 60-40 to win $32,000 but would HAVE to take the $32,000 and not go further, someone in this financial situation should take the $16,000 and run. This is because to someone with this amount of money, winning $32,000 would not nearly be twice as "good" as winning $16,000, even though the money is twice as much!

Anyone else agree? Sometimes the most +EV decision will not always be the best option to take, it depends on the bankroll. On the WWTBAM gamewshow, a millionaire should ALWAYS take the gamble from $16 to $32.....but a student with large debt in my opinion should certainly not....

Comments?

Laddy...
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Old 07-02-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: Estimated Value, Bankroll Management and Who Wants to be a Million

You're right. For most people, a game of WWTBAM is the equivalent of one of us playing at a limit way above their comfort zone. It's not surprising (or even wrong) for them to be risk adverse, as the additional money that earn with each correct answer may not have nearly the utility of the money they've already won.
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