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Old 06-29-2005, 10:37 AM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Am I the only one that pushes this?

1. I had only stolen once before.
2. Only hand I showed down entire game was AQ for 2 pair.
3. t150 is looking pretty good to me right now.



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

SB (t1148)
BB (t861)
UTG (t2861)
Hero (t980)
Button (t2150)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, HERO PUSHES HIS GODDAMN CHIPS INTO THE MIDDLE, Button calls t980, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:40 AM
Nick B. Nick B. is offline
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

how good did -980 look? I could see raising to 3bb and folding to an AI. I think with 10bb you can make that play. Queen high sucks, (although I think it is better than Ax in this situation), and I don't want all my chips in the middle with it. With 5-8bb, I would probably fold, 4 or less push, and 9+ make a normal raise and likely fold to a push.
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

No way whatsoever that that is worth a push. You really think adding 150 chips to your stack is worth the risk? I don't think thats even remotely close. But I might be wrong...
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

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No way whatsoever that that is worth a push. You really think adding 150 chips to your stack is worth the risk? I don't think thats even remotely close. But I might be wrong...

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SGA says pushing and folding are both reasonable if villains are set to average. (IE- Will call with 77+,A9+.)
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

Totally read dependant. Since you had a tight image, I don't hate this at all.

I think it's a lot closer call than people are indicating. I certainly like it more than a 3BB raise followed by folding to an all-in.
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:49 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

not sure I like to push QJ from MP. UTG-MP I want something stronger Ax or pp. From button or SB... I might push, but I will always be worried about the big stacks, unless you have a good read on them (one folded which is nice, but the other can still hurt you).
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:49 AM
Lady Dont Tekno Lady Dont Tekno is offline
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

BB could be getting ready to push. Raise to 400ish/fold to the BB push.

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Old 06-29-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

Raise to 3xBB or fold. Don't push here. The risk-reward is not worth it. If the blinds were 75-150 or 100-200 then it's an auto-push.

- Jim
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:51 AM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

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how good did -980 look? I could see raising to 3bb and folding to an AI. I think with 10bb you can make that play. Queen high sucks, (although I think it is better than Ax in this situation), and I don't want all my chips in the middle with it. With 5-8bb, I would probably fold, 4 or less push, and 9+ make a normal raise and likely fold to a push.

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Interesting line. Thanks for the suggestion. My thought was that I currently have FE against all of the stacks, but I will be losing it very shortly.

I think I overestimate the ability of my opponents to notice that I have been projecting a drum tight image.
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: Am I the only one that pushes this?

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I think I overestimate the ability of my opponents to notice that I have been projecting a drum tight image.

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Depending on what buy-in you play you are probably correct, especially if you're tight they won't notice. If you're a maniac they will.

I am surprised by the responses where people are suggesting 3xbb, leaving you with less than 7xbb... that can't be right. pushing w/ 2 worse cards from button or SB has to be smarter than 3xbb from MP... IMO.
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