AA vs. AA

[rivered_again]

Just wondering if anyone has ever figured out the odds of this happening?

Playing 10 handed, my AA met someone else's AA. I thought that was pretty amazing. I did some rough calculations that showed that it happens 1 in 269,500. But that is probably only correct for heads up. (Player A gets pocket aces which is 1 in 220, and for Player B to get the last 2 aces is 1 in 1225. Multiply both together to get 269500)

[glowstix]

i had 66 VS 66 in a heads up match last night

[jvphish]

I was in an SNG two days ago...first hand three kids went all in preflop. two of them had AA, one of them had QQ. QQ hit a set on the flop and knocked them both out. it was pretty damn funny.

[Biloxi]

It happen to me too

[mike_sharpe]

Me and my roommate both got AA in the same hand at the boat last year and lost to some donkey cold calling capped preflop with JTo.

[CardSleuth]

(Player A gets pocket aces which is 1 in 220, and for Player B to get the last 2 aces is 1 in 1225. Multiply both together to get 269500)

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One slight error. Player A gets pocket aces 1 in 221. The odds are 1 in 270725 or 270724:1 and yes that is heads up or the first four cards being dealt aces. I'm not sure how to figure the odds with 10 people in the hand. I would like to see how to figure that out also.


Here I had Pocket aces in the small blind and the big blind also got aces. Notice I almost lost to the flush.

[Stuck]

Its pretty easy - instead of 1 out of 220 its 10 out of 220, and instead of 1 out of 1225 its 9 out of 1225. In other words, you'll see AA v AA in a 10 handed game about every 3000 hands.

The chances of it happening to you are 1:220 * 9:1225 ~ 1 in every 30000 hands.

[NoChance]

I have had it happen to me twice. I split one pot and lost the other to an A-high flush.

[Hermlord]

$6-12 game, crazy loose B&M table, heavy action on every street. It gets to the showdown with three players, first two flip over AA. Third player shows 68o for runner-runner trip 6s (with nothing on the flop). The best part was, he did it so nonchalantly, like "well, obviously those 6s were coming, what else did you expect?"

Good times.

[ADAMtheEXPERT]

Well, two things

First of all, I am dissapointed that you only ask the odds, not focusing on the REAL issue; which is what to do when it's obvious that your opponent has the other two.

Next, we find that you are making a common mistake, and not looking at this correctly. Once you are holding pocket aces, it's only 1151-1 against a SINGLE opponent holding aces. With nine opponents, it's not all that uncommon.
When looking at odds, it's important to know where to begin.

Yes, if you say "the odds of me getting aces, AND an opponent getting them, on THIS NEXT HAND, are . . . . . (huge amount, close to what you've said)

But, such a question, has no bearing on correct strategy. If you don't already have them, you don't need to know, what the odds are of two people having them.

What you need to know, is what to do. In situations where you are 100% sure, that this opponent would NEVER put in all their money, without AA, AND you have them.
it's important, that you do NOT put in a ton of money, on a lucky whim, IF your stack is HUGE, compared to what you've already put in.

so, if you were playing a game, with 20,000, and had 60 in, AND someone makes it 20,000, AND you knew they would only do that, with AA You would not risk the 20K, that they other player didn't quad-suit up on you.