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Old 06-28-2005, 11:58 PM
bluefeet bluefeet is offline
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Default Push & Call Verification.....

Consecutive hands in a $25+2 stars turbo....

I've moved to the turbo's recently from the slow, 'high ceiling' [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] play on the 6-seaters. I'm looking for a sanity check for both my push...and thier call decisions. Baring a leak, my pushes feel correct - likewise, I'm personally not thrilled about either of thier calls (maybe the lader, considering a possible 'tilt' push by me). What do you think?

Hand #1:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button (t3250)
SB (t3395)
Hero (t5050)
UTG (t1805)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5025</font>, SB calls t2970 (All-In). ....with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]


Hand #2:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

UTG (t3225)
Button (t6840)
Hero (t1655)
BB (t1780)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1630</font>, BB calls t1230.........with J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]:Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 06-28-2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

I really doubt I can fold JTo, unless opponent really doesn't like me.

Folding the second hand is a crime against poker.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....


I think I'm confused by your response. In the first one, he limped, I pushed JT.............

In the second, I'm more interested to know if you call my push w/ QJo for all your chips on the bubble....is this close?
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

I don't like the AI in the first hand nor the call. What is your table image and any reads on the sb?

I like the second hand, not much more you could do. I believe the BB calls this cause you went AI on the last hand with J10o.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

Woops... Yeah. I misread, thought you made a standard SB push. And I'm not letting Villain see a flop/bet out on me here. Push preflop first one.

QJo is a loose call, to say the least. Against most opponents, I think it's a fold, but 4x BB means you're calling a lot more, plus you are pushing very near any 2...

I think I make that call against a laggy opponent, and I think it's correct.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

I'd only shown (played, I think) down 3 hands....AA, QQ, AK - all winners. I'd just become big dog - was my first steal [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Second one....yeah, I don't hate the QJ call, he only had 3 BB left himself....
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

The first I think your exagerating your chip lead. This isn't the case of an extremely small stack that is about to bust. I find this almost impossible to do at the 20s anyway. Fold.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

Calling with QJo is certainly correct here. It is probably correct to push with any two (as long as the villian will fold ~60% of his hands), and that makes this hand just too good to throw away. Much to strong to fold when a good player moves all in with 4 BB left. It would be a different story if you were a timid, poor playing bubble player who threw away far too many hands but not here.

Brad
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

Why risk a call on risk 60% of your stack on a steal to get 400?

Why not raise it 3-4BBs and pop again on a safe flop?
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Push & Call Verification.....

Because t600 is 12% of your stack and a full fifth of BB's stack?
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