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Old 06-26-2005, 07:27 PM
meriwether meriwether is offline
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I was always under the impression that Johnny Chan was one of the elite poker players in the world. I know he is most famous for his back to back WSOP championships as depicted in Rounders, but I always thought he killed the highest ring games too, including the big game. I also know his poker playing in terms of playing time tapered off over the last decade.

After reading the article by Barry saying that too much credit is given to tournament players I noticed he didn't include Johnny Chan on his list of the world's elite.

My questions:
1) Does, or did Johnny Chan regularly play and beat the "big" game?
2) In what "tier" of players would Barry Greenstein rank Chan now? In his prime/in the past?
3) Is the reason Greenstein doesn't rate Chan as an elite player due to Chan's lack of elite status, or due to Chan's decreased poker playing?
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Old 06-26-2005, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: greenstein on chan

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2) In what "tier" of players would Barry Greenstein rank Chan now? In his prime/in the past?

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Go to the source: Greenstein rates Chan and others
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: greenstein on chan

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3) Is the reason Greenstein doesn't rate Chan as an elite player due to Chan's lack of elite status, or due to Chan's decreased poker playing?

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It's because Matt Damon bluffed him out of a single pot.
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Old 06-26-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: greenstein on chan

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2) In what "tier" of players would Barry Greenstein rank Chan now? In his prime/in the past?

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Go to the source: Greenstein rates Chan and others

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Thanks for the link Dynasty. I've checked out Barry's site before, but it still doesn't answer the question of Chan's place among the top players according to Barry, as in the Rosenbloom ESPN article. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker...amp;id=2057000
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Old 06-26-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: greenstein on chan

I was under the impression that Chan does not play nearly as much as he used to. Also you must remember Barry lives in LA and Chan lives in Vegas.
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Old 06-26-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: greenstein on chan

Chan looks over the hill, fat, and tired.
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:50 AM
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Chan looks over the hill, fat, and tired.

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... and heads-up for a chance to win his 10th WSOP bracelet.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: greenstein on chan

wow, larry flynt is a good poker player. I would of never of guessed. I saw a documentary on making porn via HBO. Flynt was interviewed and could barely talk or even make an intelligent statement. Very odd. I honestly thought he was retarded from too many drugs, age, etc.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: greenstein on chan

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wow, larry flynt is a good poker player. I would of never of guessed. I saw a documentary on making porn via HBO. Flynt was interviewed and could barely talk or even make an intelligent statement. Very odd. I honestly thought he was retarded from too many drugs, age, etc.

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Sheesh. He was shot. The guy's only a little over 60.

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Old 06-27-2005, 03:33 PM
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wow, larry flynt is a good poker player. I would of never of guessed. I saw a documentary on making porn via HBO. Flynt was interviewed and could barely talk or even make an intelligent statement. Very odd. I honestly thought he was retarded from too many drugs, age, etc.

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Sheesh. He was shot. The guy's only a little over 60.

Regards,

T

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YEah, 5 bullets or so I believe too.
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