Fold KK to this river bet?

Scuba Chuck · #1 06-26-2005, 04:14 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

BB (t1005)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t670)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t790)
MP3 (t795)
Hero (t990)
Button (t755)
SB (t595)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls t15, 1 fold, MP3 calls t15, Hero raises to t90, Button calls t90, 2 folds, MP1 calls t75, MP3 calls t75.

Flop: (t380) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t380) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets t100, Button calls t100, MP1 folds, MP3 calls t100.

River: (t680) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks, Button bets t400, MP3 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1082.50

 My thoughts were that this bet was a little large for someone trying to extract 'value.' In otherwords, the bet looked like a buy. If he had a Jack, I would have paid him ~150 to see his jack, and that seemed like the right amount for someone to bet. Thoughts?

johnnybeef · #2 06-26-2005, 04:21 PM

why the hell didnt you bet that flop?

wuwei · #3 06-26-2005, 04:27 PM

I think the way you played the hand (flop check, small turn bet), there are a lot more hands than a J that will make this river bet.

yid3655 · #4 06-26-2005, 04:31 PM

I would definately be calling the river bet, I would assume he doesnt have a jack based on the fact he flat called your 100 bet with possible flush and straight draws with 2 people left to act. The bet on the end looks too big for a jack.

Why didnt you bet the river?

durron597 · #5 06-26-2005, 04:35 PM

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why the hell didnt you bet that flop?

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I just hope he didn't have 56......

Scuba Chuck · #6 06-26-2005, 04:47 PM

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I think the way you played the hand (flop check, small turn bet), there are a lot more hands than a J that will make this river bet.

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B, I guess I agree with you here. In fact, I've taken this line myself. Lately though, I've been calling these hands and, surprise, they have something like J2. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Reflecting back, my turn bet would have been more appropriate on the flop.

Sykes · #7 06-26-2005, 06:26 PM

Raise to 60 pre-flop. No reason to put 1/8th of your stack in if you can't play post-flop.

Scuba Chuck · #8 06-26-2005, 06:28 PM

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Raise to 60 pre-flop. No reason to put 1/8th of your stack in if you can't play post-flop.

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Ouch

spentrent · #9 06-26-2005, 07:22 PM

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Raise to 60 pre-flop. No reason to put 1/8th of your stack in if you can't play post-flop.

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Ouch

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Wow. That's what I call a tough love way to say "bet the flop."

EricW · #10 06-26-2005, 09:00 PM

What's the deal with letting 4 people see the turn? The way I see it, if you make a half sized pot bet, or even a pot sized bet on the flop, you can have a better idea of where you stand, and you also force guys with draws to get out.