too tight with qq early?

DMACM · #1 06-25-2005, 02:05 AM

Villan hadnt been out of line that i had noticed. Is this too tight in an 11?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

CO (t715)
Hero (t770)
SB (t1065)
BB (t775)
UTG (t775)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t1475)
MP2 (t1650)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t125, 2 folds, MP1 ALL IN MP2 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t230

Freudian · #2 06-25-2005, 02:10 AM

Yes, this is too tight. The limp-reraise in the 11s is not a cunning move but a short circuit thing. He probably has pair of fives.

flyingmoose · #3 06-25-2005, 02:14 AM

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Yes, this is too tight. The limp-reraise in the 11s is not a cunning move but a short circuit thing. He probably has pair of fives.

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I'd put him on a AJ.

Seriously, when you raise a limper in the 11s, he takes it as an insult to his manhood and pushes with all sorts of crap. It's kinda amazing. Wouldn't surprise me if he had K9s.

lastchance · #4 06-25-2005, 02:34 AM

Folding this was absolutely horrible. Unless you don't like doubling up 70% of the time, call immediately.

DMACM · #5 06-25-2005, 02:46 AM

fair enough. You'd at least lay down JJ here though right?

Freudian · #6 06-25-2005, 02:48 AM

I would lay down JJ. But I would limp with it so he would never get the chance to re-raise me.

lastchance · #7 06-25-2005, 02:48 AM

Read what flyingmoose said. I might lay down JJ here, I might not raise preflop and just limp, but there are times where I think a call is in order. Limpers hate being raised.

Isura · #8 06-25-2005, 04:48 AM

I'd raise more preflop at the 11s.

DMACM · #9 06-25-2005, 12:27 PM

whats your standard raise here with a premium? My normal strat is to raise 4 or 5 times the big blind but if theres ever a small raise in front of me I usually will go all in because at that point you can be pretty confident your opponent loves his hand and will call.

Winwood · #10 06-25-2005, 12:34 PM

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whats your standard raise here with a premium? My normal strat is to raise 4 or 5 times the big blind but if theres ever a small raise in front of me I usually will go all in because at that point you can be pretty confident your opponent loves his hand and will call.

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With Blinds 15/30 I think 125 is fine if you're first in. With 1 limper I'd go with 150-175, and with 2 limpers (like you had) I going with 180-200.