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Old 06-22-2005, 10:59 PM
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Default TT line correct?

33 1st hand. I reraised to find out where I was, he seemed serious enough, so I folded. Anyone have an alternative line that works?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)
Hero (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t85, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t375</font>, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t605
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: TT line correct?

If I'm going to reraise, I probably reraise slightly more, maybe 125-150. I think calling for set/overpair value isn't terrible, and might be preferable here, because with your position you're going to need to either c-bet or check/fold lots of flops, and that's a hefty portion of stack to give up this early. As is, you're pretty clearly done with the hand when your repop gets called by UTG and another raise comes around.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: TT line correct?

fold pre
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: TT line correct?

I like calling for set value.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: TT line correct?

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fold pre

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There are two limpers in who are likely to overcall if you call. BB might call, but we'll even assume he won't. Then you're looking at putting 45 in to a probable pot of 235. You're getting 5.5:1 direct odds in that case, which is quite high. The implied odds of spiking a set, plus the times when TT will be an overpair to the board and probably the best hand and the easiness of getting away from overcard flops, mean that this should be at least a call.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:17 PM
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ill agree this is reasonable, but would not agree if there were no limpers in first
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: TT line correct?

HU against a raise from the button, it'd be a lot better reraise then, and I probably do that. Here, calling for set value seems very solid, and doesn't leave yourself open to a reraise from a guy who shows strength.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:26 PM
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fold pre

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He did.

Also, I limp with this and play it for set value this early. Just my $.02. If you're going to raise after the limpers, raise it a bit more, probably to t75 or so.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: TT line correct?

He's not gonna fold PF getting 3:1, he's announced he's got a legit hand with his post-limper raise, and you're not going to know where you stand around 2/3 of the time OOP, so why reraise?

Call and hit a set.
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