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Old 06-21-2005, 03:33 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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Default JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

$33 SNG

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

CO (t675)
Button (t770)
SB (t875)
BB (t925)
UTG (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG+2 (t705)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t1035)
MP3 (t660)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t60, MP2 calls t60, MP3 calls t60, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t262.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t225</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t225, MP3 calls t225.

Turn: (t937.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t375</font>, MP3 folds, Hero ?????


Any other ideas? Should I have checked the turn or bet???
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:09 PM
Lady Dont Tekno Lady Dont Tekno is offline
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

Cool hand. Yeah this is a tough one. I think this is a good example of how the extra 200 chips at the $55s+ can really help.

So the only way you're winning this hand is betting the turn, if you check I think you're automatically out. However that play is too risky and I think you're better off with the check/fold.

Get em next time slugger.

//LDT
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:26 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

Check/fold the turn IMHO. Into two opponents, it's bad to lead out again.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:30 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

Too bad he hit a 6 outer or a set. Oh well, turns happen.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:31 PM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

:-( to raising JJ early position level 1.

I really really don't like doing that.

You will get too many callers, you will be out of position and 50 % of the time the flop will come overcards with no jack.

I could be wrong with my opinions here - but this is the eternal debate - just my two cents.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

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:-( to raising JJ early position level 1.

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I'm waiting for round 57 of this debate to begin....

I'll jump in right away, I don't see anything wrong with raising.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:54 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

Alright so nobody here likes a check-raise all in?
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:59 PM
benza13 benza13 is offline
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

I like the check raise if you are deeper, but it doesn't seem like you have enough chips to push him off of anything in this situation.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:59 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

I don't see anything wrong with raising either. At an insnanely LP (loose-passive) table, I think limping is fine.
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: JJ level 1 w/ a bad turn card

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Alright so nobody here likes a check-raise all in?

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Nah...
If the action had gone check/check/bet, then you can get all aggro and C/R all-in. But in this case MP2 will have a hand most of the time as he's not closing the action.
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