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JJ early, how is this line?
Party 22. Standard?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter Button (t945) SB (t785) BB (t740) UTG (t785) UTG+1 (t785) UTG+2 (t830) MP1 (t825) MP2 (t740) Hero (t770) CO (t795) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t35. Flop: (t165) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls t200. Turn: (t765) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t420 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 calls t420. River: (t1605) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t1605 |
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
Yeah, I think it's ok. I think you likely had the best hand when the chips went in and he made a flush on the river... I could also see you winning over a lower pocket pair.
Interestingly, if he had 2 overs to your JJ and they were both diamonds, I think you might have actually been a slight dog after the flop. I'll have to check Cardplayer's odds calculator (cardplayer is down now), but I'd like to see. |
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
Ran the odds... I gave villian A9 of diamonds. You're only a 56.5% favorite on the flop with villian holding that. You're much larger of a favorite on the turn, and this is quite likely irrelevant to the hand anyway, but I thought it was interesting. Anyway, I'd love to find out what happened, hopefully you'll get some other replies though.
FWIW I probably play the hand the same as you did. |
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
Make it 740 on the flop?
I don't know, just seems to be a tough spot if an overcard flops on the turn. Pretty standard. |
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
I would've played this hand almost exactly the same as you did. Maybe a slightly larger pre-flop raise, but it probably wouldn't have made a difference in the hand. I would've played the flop and turn exactly the same as you did.
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
this is why i hate 800 chips start [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
I go all in on the flop in response to the villain's raise. Don't mess around - take the chips and run. I think you made it too easy for the draw to call on the flop - and you certainly didn't have enough left to prevent a call on the turn. A push on the flop makes his call an error. - w
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
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I go all in on the flop in response to the villain's raise. Don't mess around - take the chips and run. I think you made it too easy for the draw to call on the flop - and you certainly didn't have enough left to prevent a call on the turn. A push on the flop makes his call an error. - w [/ QUOTE ] Good post. |
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
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Ran the odds... I gave villian A9 of diamonds. You're only a 56.5% favorite on the flop with villian holding that. You're much larger of a favorite on the turn, and this is quite likely irrelevant to the hand anyway, but I thought it was interesting. Anyway, I'd love to find out what happened, hopefully you'll get some other replies though. FWIW I probably play the hand the same as you did. [/ QUOTE ] Good call. Hero had A5d. He was on a straight and flush draw. |
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Re: JJ early, how is this line?
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[ QUOTE ] Ran the odds... I gave villian A9 of diamonds. You're only a 56.5% favorite on the flop with villian holding that. You're much larger of a favorite on the turn, and this is quite likely irrelevant to the hand anyway, but I thought it was interesting. Anyway, I'd love to find out what happened, hopefully you'll get some other replies though. FWIW I probably play the hand the same as you did. [/ QUOTE ] Good call. Hero had A5d. He was on a straight and flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] This actually makes him a 60/40 favorite after the flop (and only a 64/36 dog after the turn). I still don't think you could have played the hand very differently, but it's interesting to know the odds on these things, IMO. |
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