Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Internet Gambling > Internet Gambling
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-12-2005, 02:23 PM
Cubswin Cubswin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,079
Default News of the Week 6/12/2005

It's back...

My apologies for the extended break... had some 'issues' that where cutting into my posting time here but those are taken care of [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]



6/12/2005

*Party sanguine on proposed anti-gambling law
Reuters link

*Poker bots
LA Times link

*Deal me out of PartyGaming
Telegraph link

*Legal ambush could slash Party Gaming’s jackpot
Times link

Has internet betting got the upper hand?
Sunday Herald link

Britain’s online gaming hopes dashed offshore
Sunday Herald link

Poker nation: Texas Hold’em is the hottest game around
Seattle Times link


6/11/2005

*Are gambling big shots worth a punt?
Times link

Poker finds new fan base on tv
Whittier Daily News link

Raymer details heist attempt at Vegas resort
AP link

Betfair has no plans to sell shares in IPO this year
Bloomberg link


6/10/2005

Norwergian e-gaming legal developments
Aftenposten link


6/9/2005

*Can internet gambling companies really be worth that much?
Economist link

Calculating the odds on CryptoLogic
National Post link

WSOP is underway, and this one is even bigger
SI/CNN link

Australian poker raid
Advertiser Adelaide link

Delaware poker legislation
Sussex Countian link

Maine poker legislation
Central Maine Morning Sentinel link


6/8/2005

*States urge trade representatives to fight net gaming
AP link

Virtual gambling, real profits
Fortune link

The show that set off the poker explosion
Guardian link

Poker’s stylish draw
Baltimore Sun link


6/7/2005


Google, Yahoo lose bid to dismiss gambling ad suit
Bloomberg link


5/24/2005

Understanding the WTO decisions
Interactive Gaming News link
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-12-2005, 02:57 PM
Punker Punker is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 297
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

I don't know if others appreciate these reports, but I will say that I certainly do.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-12-2005, 03:09 PM
astarck astarck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 55s
Posts: 470
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

[ QUOTE ]
I don't know if others appreciate these reports, but I will say that I certainly do.

[/ QUOTE ]

You aren't alone, I do too. This is the first post about reports I have seen and I have really enjoyed it.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-12-2005, 03:10 PM
GoblinMason (Craig) GoblinMason (Craig) is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Urbana, IL (UIUC)
Posts: 268
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

Thanks cubs, I missed these.

-Craig
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-12-2005, 03:26 PM
Aytumious Aytumious is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 313
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

Excellent work.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-12-2005, 04:03 PM
itsmarty itsmarty is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 116
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In Antwort auf:</font><hr />
Poker’s stylish draw
Baltimore Sun link

[/ QUOTE ]

It's good to have you back, Cubs. It didn't exactly make me proud of the hometown paper though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Martin
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-12-2005, 04:06 PM
Cubswin Cubswin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,079
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

Not exactly the best article... i just have a hard time excluding any article from a publication with a largish circulation....

cubs
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-12-2005, 04:16 PM
Number4 Number4 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

Thanks for the report - found the one about the Senate bill especially interesting.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-12-2005, 04:38 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: memphis
Posts: 1,245
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

my Dad forward me the article from the NYTimes (he frequently does that with poker or baseball articles that he thinks might interest me).

Looks like just another attempt by Kyl that will hopefully get nowhere. The Times is mentioning it because online-gaming is so much bigger now that talk of inhibiting americans' access now becomes more interesting because it affects more people (since there are more people actually playing than ever before).
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-12-2005, 04:46 PM
Cubswin Cubswin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,079
Default Re: News of the Week 6/12/2005

Economist Article

Flush

A London listing for a business that may be illegal in its main market

IF YOU are playing poker and you can't tell who at your table is the sucker, then it is probably you. That piece of poker lore may be worth pondering by those about to snap up shares in the forthcoming initial public offering (IPO) of PartyGaming, the world's leading online poker site. The listing of 23% of PartyGaming's shares on the London Stock Exchange is expected to give the firm a market capitalisation of at least $10 billion ($18 billion), making it one of the 100 biggest listed British firms.

Can that value possibly be justified? After all, PartyGaming, though profitable and fast growing, with strong cashflow, has been in its main business for under four years. It faces competition that is fierce and intensifying. And it makes most of its money from an activity that, in America, its biggest market, is probably illegal.

Richard Segal, PartyGaming's boss, says the firm not only has huge growth potential but already pays a dividend that a mature company could be proud of. The IPO is intended not just to raise some cash for its founders (including Ruth Parasol, described in breathless media reports as an erstwhile adult entertainer), but also to help fund even more rapid expansion, both geographically (online gambling in Europe and Asia lags behind America) and into other sorts of games. And as the industry consolidates, PartyGaming expects to use its shares to buy up its rivals, both online and, quite likely, in the traditional betting business, too. It wants to become the world's leading gambling company.

The hype surrounding gambling shares—other popular ones listed in London are BetFair, Sportingbet and Betandwin—is eerily reminiscent of the internet bubble in 1999-2000, when investors paid daft prices for firms with identical, untested, business models. Yet even if growth slows sharply, the numbers could still look attractive. Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein, the investment bank underwriting the IPO, expects the global online poker market, which has quadrupled in the past two years, to quadruple again by 2008, by which time it expects overall online gambling revenues to exceed $18 billion.

Can PartyGaming become the eBay of online gaming? It has a market share of over 50%, and says it hosts over a billion poker games a year. Like eBay it benefits from early-mover advantage. It spent heavily on marketing from the start, making headlines by hosting a tournament with a $1m first prize, and offering punters the chance to qualify for a lucrative tournament cruise off the coast of Mexico. Last year its marketing budget was over $100m.

PartyGaming may benefit from network effects similar to those eBay enjoys: it is based on a many-to-many model for which the internet is ideally suited. The more people use the site, the wider the variety of games available at any one time, the more attractive the site becomes and the more trustworthy the company looks.

On the other hand, although scale may give PartyGaming some advantages, it is not immune from competition. James Hipwell, editor of InsideEdge, a gambling magazine, wonders how loyal punters will be to a firm that rakes off at least 3% of every pot for itself, when rival firms offer to take a smaller slice. Dresdner expects PartyGaming's market share to dip below 50% this year.

And then there is the legal risk. Maybe 90% of PartyGaming's punters are Americans who are avoiding domestic prohibitions by betting offshore. PartyGaming argues that it is doing nothing illegal and that a recent ruling by the World Trade Organisation may yet cause America to loosen its rules on gambling.

Anyway, there may not be much that the American authorities can do to stop PartyGaming. It has no employees or assets or servers in America. It is headquartered in Gibraltar, a British offshore regulatory and tax haven. Although two of its four founders are American citizens (the other two are Indians) they live in Britain, now the gambling capital of the world. The Gambling Act 2005, which has just come into force, provides a strong legal footing for online excitements of all sorts, from internet poker to betting exchanges (in which customers bet against each other, rather than against a bookmaker). All of which, says PartyGaming's management, are reasons to be optimistic. Unless, of course, they are bluffing.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.