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Old 06-11-2005, 10:44 PM
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Default Your action on this early hand from the CO?

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I took most of the time bank thinking about this one. I wasn't sure what to do. Please vote and post opinions. Thanks.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

SB (t1145)
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MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t925)
MP3 (t780)
Hero (t990)
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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero???
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

I'm folding here. Calling and seeing a flop is the worst thing you can do, IMO.
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?


Im just not willing to open raise from the cutoff and fold to a reraise against a typical partypoker player. The position of your raise should increase his hand range too much for me to fold here. Probably folding isn't terrible though...if I raised from an earlier position I'd ube a lot more likely to fold.
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

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Im just not willing to open raise from the cutoff and fold to a reraise against a typical partypoker player. The position of your raise should increase his hand range too much for me to fold here. Probably folding isn't terrible though...if I raised from an earlier position I'd ube a lot more likely to fold.

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I agree with you, and had this been level 3 instead, I might be more inclined to push. I don't think most players view CO open-raises in level 2 as "steals," per say, and although I think it increases his hand range by a good amount, I would still fold.
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

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Im just not willing to open raise from the cutoff and fold to a reraise against a typical partypoker player. The position of your raise should increase his hand range too much for me to fold here. Probably folding isn't terrible though...if I raised from an earlier position I'd ube a lot more likely to fold.

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Two things though:

1. The size of his raise is worrisome. It shouts two things: monster or donk, and I don't know which one he is.

2. A big reraise here most often represents a range of hands that JJ is a strong favorite against, but it can't be 3:2. Probably between 3:2 and 11:9. I have a healthy stack and it's early. Do I need to take that edge now?
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:08 PM
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If your edge is between 3:2 and 11:9 then I believe that yes you do, especially with 100 chips already in the pot. Probably folding isnt terrible, I just dont like it.
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

I fold here.

But whenever someone makes a raise like this, most of the time it is AA, KK or AK.

Unless for the few that have Q3o.

So my question to you is...what about if you had QQ instead?

I usually push QQ and fold JJ here but if villian has AK the majority of the time why would I fold JJ and call with QQ? I am still losing to AA/KK and the same coinflip vs AK than I am with JJ.

My strategy makes no sense does it? Need some help with this one...
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Old 06-12-2005, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

can somebody explain their reasons for calling? It seems pretty horrible to me
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Old 06-12-2005, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

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A big reraise here most often represents a range of hands that JJ is a strong favorite against

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I disagree. In my experience at the 55s (1500 tourneys or so), this reraise represents a monster, and at best you are probably against overcards. If he had pushed, I would be far less suspicious. I suspect you will see AA, KK, QQ, AK far more often than you will see Ax or a lower pocket pair.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

I maybe wrong, but I think the size of his raise is very worrisome. I'd much rather call a push. I fold here. (unless villian and I know eachother or something)
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