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Old 06-11-2005, 04:41 PM
Turk Turk is offline
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Default Push check, couple hands.

Party $22's

Want to make sure I am picking good spots, so if you guys could give me a bit of feedback that would be great.

Hand 1:
BB has been fairly tight so far, but correct me if I am wrong I need to get my chips in there and this hand seems as good as any given my chip situation and stack sizes etc...so I want a fold but if I get a call thats Ok too.
Or is this a better place for a Stop & Go?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

SB (t3030)
BB (t1210)
UTG (t1380)
Hero (t965)
Button (t1415)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t965 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t865.

Flop: (t1980) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1980) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1980) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1980


Hand 2:
The only read I have on BB is he hasn't been too active and doesn't stick out in my mind...thats it.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

BB (t970)
UTG (t410)
UTG+1 (t1125)
MP1 (t1130)
MP2 (t2680)
CO (t670)
Hero (t580)
SB (t435)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t580 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t730
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:45 PM
fluorescenthippo fluorescenthippo is offline
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

hand 1: I Wouldnt push here with 10xBB. maybe with 700 chips
hand 2 is fine
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

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Hand 1:
BB has been fairly tight so far, but correct me if I am wrong I need to get my chips in there and this hand seems as good as any given my chip situation and stack sizes etc...so I want a fold but if I get a call thats Ok too.
Or is this a better place for a Stop &amp; Go?


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A stop and go, by definition, is not possible here. also, i would hate being called with K high
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

I think they are both good pushes. I'm a little more hesistant about the second one, but I think it is still good.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

Hand 1, IMHO, is a fold, but microbet is right, this could be a push. I fold KJo here, and it's pretty close, so KJs is probably a push. I'd fold, but I think pushing this isn't awful, and I'm certainly not saying it's terrible.

Hand 2 is also a fold, and I think it's pretty clear. T6s just isn't worthy of a button push, IMHO. 6x BB isn't a lot, but it's enough to wait another round before making this kind of push.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

The second one I could very well fold based on a read or my table image.

The first is a bit marginal, but less dependent on reads because if my table image is already crazy I'll be getting called by dogs.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

Yupz. I probably assume a wider calling range than you do, BTW. Changes things around.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

You're probably right then. I'm still too often surprised by the calls I see.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

I think the first one you have to many chips to be pushing
The second I think is an insta-push. I could be wrong but with that many people in and less than 6xBB this seems pretty clear to me.
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Push check, couple hands.

Hand 1: I could go either way on this one. If the blinds are coming up before you hit them, I'll push this. Also, I'd be willing to push this if the table has been very tight. I don't think there's anything wrong with folding this either though.

Hand 2: This seems to me that this is an easier push than the KJs one, simply because of your stack size. I push this every time. As a bonus, trashy tens are great suckout hands...and it's sooted. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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