push here or wait for a better spot?

[DMACM]

My opponents were fairly loose but I figured it was now or never.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter

MP1 (t990)
Hero (t675)
CO (t510)
Button (t3000)
SB (t750)
BB (t1275)
UTG (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t150) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Turn: (t150) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t150) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t150

[DasLeben]

I'm not a huge fan if they've been loose. On a tight table I'd consider pushing this, but I think you're getting called a LOT here.

[treeofwisdom7]

its nott now or never unless the blinds are going up next hand.

[ChuckyB]

A big bet into a small pot is a recipe for disaster. Check it down and wait for a better spot. If you had been leading the betting along the way, and getting reluctant calls, then you could make a final play for it. Not the case here...let it go.

[Meatmaw]

What's your image at this point? If you put your opponents on (22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs) to call you, then it's only -0.3% $EV to push. Put them on (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) and it's +0.3% to push, so depending on what you consider "loose" for your opponents, the SGA analysis is close. After 4 hands, you're going to have 525 and the blinds'll be up and you'll be worthless.

I push here. Even if they drop their standards to K4+ it's still only -0.5EV to push. You can overcome that with your skill.

[lastchance]

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I push here. Even if they drop their standards to K4+ it's still only -0.5EV to push. You can overcome that with your skill.

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This is stupid. Your skill here is making +EV decisions at this point.

I fold this, BTW, though I can see pushing. Loose opponents just make me want to fold.

[Meatmaw]

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Even if they drop their standards to K4+ it's still only -0.5EV to push. You can overcome that with your skill.

[/ QUOTE ]This is stupid. Your skill here is making +EV decisions at this point.

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My point is not that you knowingly making a -EV decision. It's that the ICM evaluation of SGA reports a -0.5%EV assuming you are the same skill at your opponents. Your ability to play better than your opponents, and the evaluation of the timeliness of your moves, makes it ok to push -EV situations as reported in SGA, which is only evaluating one aspect of the hand. Is that better?

[lastchance]

It's definitely good to take -EV situations now so you don't have to take worse ones later.

But that said, it only matters if you can play a big stack very strongly, and a small stack very weakly. If you play both equally well or poorly, you're not getting a huge amount of $EV by having big stacks.

[Eihli]

If you put them on 77+ A9+ calling range, this is .5% +EV. I'd push this since I think their range is probably tighter than that.