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Old 06-08-2005, 11:11 AM
waynethetrain waynethetrain is offline
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Default Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

The previous hand was an extremely wild raising fest and then came my chance to join the fun. The one downside to this hand was that I spilled coffee on myself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Cutoff had AJ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
MP2 had pocket 5s [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

At one point I was actually worried about four 9s. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (24.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (19.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (35.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls $1.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: 38.50 BB
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Old 06-08-2005, 11:35 AM
grayhawk grayhawk is offline
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

OMG, what were MP2 and CO thinking - especially CO! Hard to believe your re-raise of MP2 on the flop didn't slow him down on the turn - at least he wised up on the river.
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Old 06-08-2005, 11:37 AM
einbert einbert is offline
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

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OMG, what were MP2 and CO thinking - especially CO! Hard to believe your re-raise of MP2 on the flop didn't slow him down on the turn - at least he wised up on the river.

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Yeah, when his pocket pair was counterfeited by the two pair on the board, lmao.
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Old 06-08-2005, 11:43 AM
waynethetrain waynethetrain is offline
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

I was shocked by the result.

I'm not sure how much of it was related to several players steaming from the last huge hand.

I'm not sure what other people think about this, but I seem to do much better on tables full of maniacs than I do with loose passives. The variance is a lot higher, but you just don't see this kind of insanity on a table full of rocks and loose passives.
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:20 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

The only thing I would do differently is you must raise/3bet yourself on the river.

-Jaran
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:41 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

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I'm not sure what other people think about this, but I seem to do much better on tables full of maniacs than I do with loose passives. The variance is a lot higher, but you just don't see this kind of insanity on a table full of rocks and loose passives.

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I'm finally getting to the point where I'm satisfied that I can identify player types fairly quickly when I sit down at micro tables (not too many people shifting gears around here) and change my style accordingly.

Here's a hand I loved from yesterday. I was at the end of Maniac's Row; the player to my right was reacting to the two players to her right by trying to isolate them on EVERY hand. The two players to her right were capping EVERY street between them, talking about how they "loved it." I don't think they were colluding or anything, or if they were they were doing it very badly as they wound up net negative between them.

Oh, UTG+1 was a decent player that had recognized their behavior as well, and could easily have been playing A-rag, as that often beat these jackasses.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (22.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 34.75 BB

Results:
UTG+1 has 9h 9s (full house, eights full of nines).
MP2 has 9c Kh (three of a kind, eights).
Hero has Tc Th (full house, eights full of tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 34.75 BB.
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:43 PM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

Why didn't you cap the turn if you were willing to cap the river?
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

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Why didn't you cap the turn if you were willing to cap the river?

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Hero was clearly worried the case 8 would fall and counterfeit his hand.
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:54 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

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Why didn't you cap the turn if you were willing to cap the river?

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I was 4-tabling, clearing the PP bonus, and misclicked when the window popped up? That's what I'm telling myself, at any rate, as I really don't have any idea.
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Old 06-08-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Finally.....somebody up there answered me!

How long were you at this table b/4 these knuckleheads backed off? Or did they? It doesn't happen often for me but I also take great pleasure in pinching these idiots off with monster hands - vnh!
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