10 BIG 6-max hands

droolie · #1 06-08-2005, 10:36 AM

Hand 1:

MP 1 is a total LAG maniac and reraises with made hands or draws. UTG is reasonably normal loose nuetral.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, MP 3-bets, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG caps, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, MP calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

Hand 2:

UTG is a total spaz maniac randomly bets and bets when he has it. He folds at odd times. He has a big stack and a table of TAG's trying to take it from him. Very fun table.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Button raises, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, Button 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

Hand 3:
Villian in this hand is very loose and passive (up untitl this hand that is...)

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, Button calls, BB 3-bets, UTG folds, Hero caps, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (17.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.75 BB

Hand 4:
These guys were both loose and terrible. Their aggression meant power as they were typically very passive but there was no way to put them on a range of hands ewarly as they were sooooo looooooose.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, CO calls.

River: (13 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls $3.25 (All-In), CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.87 BB

Hand 5:

This guy has been betting when checked to aqll friggin day. He's a total maniac with ridiculous aggression pre and postflop.

I whiffed on a C/R on the river BTW.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Hand 6:

Villian is a typical loose passive. I strongly suspect I'm behind on the turn. There are two flush cards that beat me on the river and I just call. Can somebody please locate and return my balls?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Hand 7:
BB is a total freak of a maniac (the one in hand 1). MP is a TAP and I have him on AA from the second he LRR's.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, MP 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, MP caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Hand 8:
Villian is the maniac from hands 1 and 7. I never limp with AA but really wanted to make sure this guy had a chance to give me his money as he was folding occassionally pf and I knew if I checked to him he would bet aggressively.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (2 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

River: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Hand 9:

Villian are unremarkable LAPs

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, Button folds.

River: (8.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Hand 10:
Villian is a LAG who berated me in the chatbox for the rest of the night after this hand. Did I deserve it?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Button calls, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (12 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Hand 11: Bonus hand (no content)

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, CO folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has 9s 8d (straight, nine high).
Hero has 9h 8h (straight, nine high).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.25 BB. BB wins 10.25 BB.

This came at the tail end of a major losing session. I don't think I've ever come closer to throwing a tantrum than I was after this hand. I forgot about the other players early in the hand and thought at the time I actually might have lost money with the mortal nuts after the rake. It was one of those nights. Last night wasn't too fun either as I had 4 boats sunk in under an hour. Unbelievable.

McGahee · #2 06-08-2005, 11:04 AM

I'll look at the other hands later, but just looking at the first couple...
Yesterday you posted a hand where you capped the river with the non-nut flush on a paired board.
Now you're not capping with a full boat on a board full of straight & flush possibilities? WTF

Quercus · #3 06-08-2005, 11:06 AM

You need to find your raise button more often.

On hands where you have a third player tagging along, you don't have to have the winner very often to make a cap correct with a monster hand.

mmmmmbrother · #4 06-08-2005, 11:07 AM

why didnt you cap the river in hand1 you weren actually scared of the QJ of spades were you.

droolie · #5 06-08-2005, 11:09 AM

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I'll look at the other hands later, but just looking at the first couple...
Yesterday you posted a hand where you capped the river with the non-nut flush on a paired board.
Now you're not capping with a full boat on a board full of straight & flush possibilities? WTF

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Yesterday all those hands were losers. Today some of them are, some of them aren't. Some of these are tougher than they look. I'll give a $5 to the first person who can guess which hands were good, which were no good and which chopped in all 10 cases. (hint there is one chop besides hand 11)

Anybody who can guess villian's winning holdings in all the hands I lost to gets $10.

Only one guess each and NO EDITS!

McGahee · #6 06-08-2005, 11:14 AM

Well, there's a reason why posting results is discouraged, right?
I guarantee you're good in hands' 1&2 far more than 33% of the time. In that hand yesterday, you're good less than 50% of the time after villian 3-bet.

deception5 · #7 06-08-2005, 11:20 AM

Hand 1: I like. When 3-bet on the river I agree it's time to just call.
Hand 2: The 3-bet is again a surprise here, I like not capping again.
Hand 3: I'm going broke here. If I'm against pocket queens or Q9/Q2/Q5 so be it, I think trips are much more likely.
Hand 4: This one is close - I would be tempted to put in another bet, but since you check/3-betted the turn and he's still not slowing down calling is probably ok.
Hand 5: I 3-bet preflop typically but calling to keep him aggressive is good too (although sometimes I find against this kind of player they will put you on a "steal" when you reraise and you make a bundle). I think betting and check/raising are close here on the river.
Hand 6: "There are two flush cards that beat me on the river and I just call. Can somebody please locate and return my balls?" lol - yeah I think you need to raise here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Hand 7: Looks good. Your read appears accurate of mp although kings are still a possibility (as he could be scared of the q/7). I think you're up against 2-pair or trash often enough to call this, but I think raising would be too risky as even maniacs get cards sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Hand 8: I think this is fine preflop. I think I would 3-bet the river as I doubt he gives you credit for an 8 and could easily be playing a ten this way.
Hand 9: I think I would fold this on the flop. It's 3-way, you aren't closing the action and the pot is tiny. I don't think I want to fight over it with ace high and a gutshot. On the river I think you are up against 2-pair or a set a huge % of the time. You're only afraid of 46 here which is very unlikely so I would reraise 100% of the time.
Hand 10: Against a lag I think both of your cards are live here often enough (and the pot is large enough) to peel one off on the flop. Once the queen comes down there's no letting it go [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

droolie · #8 06-08-2005, 11:23 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Well, there's a reason why posting results is discouraged, right?
I guarantee you're good in hands' 1&2 far more than 33% of the time. In that hand yesterday, you're good less than 50% of the time after villian 3-bet.

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I actually agree that capping hand 1 is the correct play. I have been really terrible at turn and river play so far at 6-max. When I'm aggro I get shown the nuts. When I'm passive I miss serious value bets. Part of the reason why I posted this group is that I consistantly make the wrong choices with big hands that are not the nuts to the point were I'm really lacking the confidence necessary to be successful.

SomethingClever · #9 06-08-2005, 11:23 AM

First 5 or 6 hands, I see about a trillion bets you missed.

Okay, so you didn't win all of these. Sometimes you lose with monsters. But usually you don't. Throw your chips in there.

droolie · #10 06-08-2005, 11:30 AM

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First 5 or 6 hands, I see about a trillion bets you missed.

Okay, so you didn't win all of these. Sometimes you lose with monsters. But usually you shouldn't . Throw your chips in there.

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FYP. LOL!