4 hands that I liked to have reviewed

elcheapo · #1 06-07-2005, 04:24 PM

1.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (2 handed) converter

BB (t3670)
Hero (t4330)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls t200, BB checks.

Flop: (t800) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t800) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t800) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1200

Hand #2

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (2 handed) converter

Button (t4070)
Hero (t3930)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button calls t200, Hero checks.

Flop: (t800) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t400, Hero calls t400.

Turn: (t1600) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (t1600) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t1000, Button calls t1000.

Final Pot: t3600

Hand #3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Hero (t770)
BB (t735)
UTG (t740)
UTG+1 (t990)
UTG+2 (t1280)
MP1 (t715)
MP2 (t610)
MP3 (t600)
CO (t630)
Button (t930)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t50, MP1 calls t50, 3 folds, Button calls t50, Hero raises to t250, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t200, MP1 folds, Button calls t200.

Flop: (t815) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets t175, Button calls t175, Hero folds.

Turn: (t1165) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Button bets t175, UTG+2 calls t175.

River: (t1515) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: t1515

Hand #4
Limp kk on the button, call, check. Flop comes 942 all spades. check bet 200, I call,sb folds. Turn is a red 9, He bets 300 into a 700 pot and I push for another 1200 more and he calls with 109 offsuit. Plenty of mistakes but was confused by this hand. Weak lead made me think draw and table was very tight.

junkmail3 · #2 06-07-2005, 04:31 PM

1. Preflop - Hero raises to T600 - Villian folds. (if it gets to the turn the way it did, hero bets T800) ... seriously. Calling in the SB heads up? Terrible.

2. Perflop - Hero raises to T1200. Hero might fold anywhere after that. Don't get tricked into having to play hands postflop heads up.

3. You put yourself in an interesting situation. You raised so much preflop, that you either have to go all in or fold post flop. You don't have enough room to make a probing bet. So, preflop, raise to T150. Then go all in if you get reraised again. Flop bet 2/3 the pot, see if anyone is still interested.

4. Too hard to read. Raise preflop.

KingDan · #3 06-07-2005, 04:37 PM

Hand 1 Raise PF.
bet the turn
Hand 2 I push pf
Hand 3 After betting that much pf, you can't lay this down IMO. I push
Hand 4 Don't limp preflop. When you do, you are going to have to lay down on some scary boards.

octaveshift · #4 06-07-2005, 04:37 PM

#1. Raise PF
#2. Push PF
#3. I push PF at the 10s. You will be amazed what crap will come along for the ride. Don't mind the fold to the KK flop.
#4. You stepped on your own dick by limping KK. Congrats.

elcheapo · #5 06-07-2005, 04:39 PM

1. nothing wrong with playing some poker after preflop which is what I'm tryin to improve. Anybody can push/raise a range of hands.

2. He liked to limp big hands, so I put him AK or AQ after the turn check and I thought a river pseudo value bet would take it down. A 1200 raise commits me to the pot if he reraises
3. Do you want to play AA 4 handed with a 150 raise, i don't
4. Not that hard to read just want to know about interpretation of villians bet sizes. Wanted to know if raise non spade turn as a good line here

elcheapo · #6 06-07-2005, 04:46 PM

1. Probably should have raised but I thought I had an edge and he was timid postflop. Thought I'd take a free card (didn't want a checkraise nor make a continuation bluff on the river) which obviously didn't work out well
2. Thought he had a least an ace as he limped many big hands.
Wondering about delayed bluff.
3. In this case I find a check to be useful as somebody will bet at this flop and headsup I take my chances but not against two othere.
4. Limping was bad but I'm worried about the postflop play

citanul · #7 06-07-2005, 04:49 PM

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1. nothing wrong with playing some poker after preflop which is what I'm tryin to improve. Anybody can push/raise a range of hands.

2. He liked to limp big hands, so I put him AK or AQ after the turn check and I thought a river pseudo value bet would take it down. A 1200 raise commits me to the pot if he reraises
3. Do you want to play AA 4 handed with a 150 raise, i don't
4. Not that hard to read just want to know about interpretation of villians bet sizes. Wanted to know if raise non spade turn as a good line here

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1) the guy you responded to didn't tell you to push preflop. with heads up hands, reads are helpful. having played the hand as you did, bet the turn, if you got there without betting the flop. part of the "playing poker after preflop" is that when you're in position, you should be owning the guy hard.

2) see, telling us that he liked ot limp big hands would oh, i dunno, been a smart thing to do. i'm not going to follow any logic about check calling and then checking to see what you do on the turn here with K high, that just isn't making much sense.

3) you played this one fine i think. nah, prolly not. meh, pushing preflop isn't necessarilly wrong by any margin at all. your problem is that you only have 770 chips? what buyin is this? personally, i think with your stack, i'd push over the action to you, and that nothing else is acceptable at all really.

4) limping on the button with kings first in is terrible. so i'm not even going to read the rest of that hand. once again, interpretation of bet sizes is a) opponent dependent and b) stakes dependent. many players telegraph exactly what they have with their bets, and many tell you nothing because of their horrible play.

citanul

junkmail3 · #8 06-07-2005, 04:49 PM

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1. nothing wrong with playing some poker after preflop which is what I'm tryin to improve. Anybody can push/raise a range of hands.

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You don't want to play too much post flop heads up. I didn't say push. I said raise. It's easier to play postflop (if you have to) if he comes along for the raise (and doesn't get to check with just any two) anyway.

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2. He liked to limp big hands, so I put him AK or AQ after the turn check and I thought a river pseudo value bet would take it down. A 1200 raise commits me to the pot if he reraises

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Why didn't you mention this in your original post?
And, I meant raise to T600-T800, that was a typo on my part.
You'll get out of tough situations later the more you raise preflop (heads up, and in general)

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3. Do you want to play AA 4 handed with a 150 raise, i don't

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Do you want to play AA in a push/fold situation post flop because you're in a situation where you can't correctly bet less than your entire stack postflop?

(And I don't think I saw the two limpers, or paid attnetion. So my postflop advice with the smaller raise may not be right. You'd need to bet T300 with a T800 stack. Which is harder to do than betting T200 I guess.

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4. Not that hard to read just want to know about interpretation of villians bet sizes. Wanted to know if raise non spade turn as a good line here

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I don't know stack sizes, blinds, how many players left, your chip position, his chip position, or other things.

I can't give advice without this knowledge.

elcheapo · #9 06-07-2005, 04:49 PM

Already answered 1 and 2 on other posts. #3 I'm trying to isolate against one opponent. The 2 other hands were JJ and AK I think neither wanted to play for all their chips preflop based on the JJ call of 200 extra and AK's call of the original raise. 4. Limping was bad but felt it was the only way to get action. Wondering about postflop play.

junkmail3 · #10 06-07-2005, 04:50 PM

I type too slow.