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#1
06-07-2005, 12:11 AM
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I liked this move here. Bubble Stop N Go
<font color="blue"> Thoughts? </font>
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter Hero (t1095) BB (t3675) UTG (t1480) Button (t1750) Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (t1000) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="red"> Hero pushes allin </font> Button calls t695. 
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#5
06-07-2005, 12:31 AM
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Re: I liked this move here. Bubble Stop N Go
Any reads on the Button ?
If he is an aggressive blind stealer and has been getting away with minraise blind steals then I would prefer a preflop all-in over a stop-and-go. Also there is a risk that the BB would call the raise. Stop-and-go plays better heads up. Against two opponents you would have trouble. I suppose you would push the flop given a call from the BB ? So although it is read dependent, both on the nature of the button player and the BB chances of calling the raise. I would favor a all-in preflop vs the stop-and-go.
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#6
06-07-2005, 01:08 AM
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Re: I liked this move here. Bubble Stop N Go
I like it... it is very hard to call with nothing (likely the button's holdings) there although some party players will call everytime with A high. As is normally the case, any unusual play will be assumed a bluff by the typical party donk and called out of spite (whether or not it is +EV, not that they will have any concept of EV). I am interested in the result.
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#7
06-07-2005, 01:12 AM
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Re: I liked this move here. Bubble Stop N Go
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Do you ever put the brakes on if the flop is nasty, like J-Q-K? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't think that flop to be nasty here.
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#8
06-07-2005, 01:19 AM
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Re: I liked this move here. Bubble Stop N Go
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[ QUOTE ] Do you ever put the brakes on if the flop is nasty, like J-Q-K? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't think that flop to be nasty here. [/ QUOTE ] There are a lot of possible draws that are getting better than marginal pot odds to call here (more with two suited cards). And there's the possibility of crafty, aware players who know they might be in a +EV spot to call here against another crafty, aware player like yourself. Of course, I suppose the central assumption behind a stop and go is that the villain is neither aware nor crafty. Why do you like the J-Q-K board? What am I missing?
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#9
06-07-2005, 01:22 AM
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Re: I liked this move here. Bubble Stop N Go
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do you ever put the brakes on if the flop is nasty, like J-Q-K? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't think that flop to be nasty here. [/ QUOTE ] There are a lot of possible draws that are getting better than marginal pot odds to call here (more with two suited cards). And there's the possibility of crafty, aware players who know they might be in a +EV spot to call here against another crafty, aware player like yourself. Of course, I suppose the central assumption behind a stop and go is that the villain is neither aware nor crafty. Why do you like the J-Q-K board? What am I missing? [/ QUOTE ] I didn't say I liked it. I just think that I'll have a tought time laying down TP with as many chips as I'll have left if I fold.
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#10
06-07-2005, 01:26 AM
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Re: I liked this move here. Bubble Stop N Go
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I didn't say I liked it. I just think that I'll have a tought time laying down TP with as many chips as I'll have left if I fold. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry I have mixed things up here. I meant a J-Q-K board where your hand is any hand with which you'd play a stop and go -- not your specific hand that HAS A K!!! Hahaha, my bad! I'm thinking, say, you hold something like 44 with the same preflop action and a J-Q-K flop.
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