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Old 06-06-2005, 08:36 PM
suited_ace suited_ace is offline
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Default Call? A8o in the BB.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t915)
UTG (t660)
MP1 (t1311)
MP2 (t1494)
CO (t794)
Button (t786)
SB (t2040)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero?
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Old 06-06-2005, 08:59 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

dump it, you're better off using your position to steal blinds then put a battle up here
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

I think stacks are definitely short enough to call here. And of course, push 99% of flops.
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

i'd push preflop
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:33 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

Whether you can fold this depends entirely on the player. I could see a lot of people raising here with A2 though, which definitly makes this a call against the average player. Also, I don't see anything wrong with doing a stop and go in place of pushing pf.
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken but aren't the chip counts before the blinds are posted? If so, you are only left with 2BB if you fold and 1/4 of that will be in the SB. Doesn't that make this an insta-push on almost any two cards and you're pretty happy you have a hand that is not bad against the range of a potential blinds stealer?
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

Chip counts are before blinds are posted, and I'd have 3BB after posting the SB.

I folded this hand, but as soon as I did it I felt I shouldn't have folded this.
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

Folded to the button with the blinds this high he could be raising with a lot of hands but you were there so you should have a better idea as to how he was playing. Even with that being said you will only have 3x BB if you fold this. How was the table playing? I noticed someone said to fold this and try to steal blinds. Well thats an idea but with such a small stack you will have little FE and you also have to deal with 6 others players who may not give you the oppportunity to steal. So you can fold now and try to steal or catch a better hand soon. This is not without risk though. Or you can make your stand now. According to ICM you need to win this 56% of the time to breakeven in $EV. I think its close but I would just make my stand now because if I double up here it makes it much easier to steal and control the table near the bubble. I just don't like playing a short stack with so many people left with such high blinds. Its a gamble either way but I think the upside is much bigger making your stand now.
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Call? A8o in the BB.

[ QUOTE ]

Button (t786)
Button raises to t500


[/ QUOTE ]
Run.

Which of course raises an interesting question:
Does a &lt; all-in raise often have more FE than a push?
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:55 AM
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No way I fold this...
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