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Old 12-30-2002, 06:48 PM
gaylord focker gaylord focker is offline
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Default did I get myself in trouble early?

Quick hand that made me want to vomit recently. 5-10 no limit game at Turning Stone Casino, Ive got 1300 in front of me. Loose failry agressive player who horribly over values his hands raises to 40 from the cutoff, all fold to me in the BB with pocket 10s. I figure there is little chance he has a bigger pair, he would raise with many differnet hands from this spot. I raise it to 130 total, and he calls. Flop comes 993. After the called the 100 dollar raise preflop, I was a little worried he might have something like Jacks or Queens. I decided to make a pretty good sized bet a on the flop, and if I got called I would slow may down and hope to get it checked down on the turn and river. I bet 200 on the flop and he calls. I'm sure Im beat at this point, and have no intention of putting another dollar in the pot. Turn comes a 10, giving me 10s full of nines. I go all in for my remaining money, (about 1000) and he calls and turns over pocket nines.

Obvioulsy Im going to lose all my money once the turn card hits, but im interested to hear how others would have played the hand up to this point. Anyone think I bet too much on the flop? I cant check because I dont want to give him a chance to hit an overcard. Almost remember this is a very loose weak player.
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Old 12-31-2002, 09:34 AM
twistedbeats twistedbeats is offline
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Default Re: did I get myself in trouble early?

the turning stone's in upstate NY, right? how often do they spread big bet?

i think i would have done the same thing with your hand. why would he have to have a better hand than yours?
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Old 12-31-2002, 02:24 PM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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Default Re: did I get myself in trouble early?

Stack sizes are wrong for that preflop raise. If you had $400 you might raise to commit yourself against a loose caller. If you each had over $3,000 you can raise because he'll call with junk and you can call a reraise and play on, but your opponent better be meek postflop (or at least be a lot more meek than you). If he's not a raise forces you to make a tough decision on the turn, so it's bad.

Here the preflop raise kills you. You don't want him to lay down preflop when there's all that money to be had if you hit the set. You don't want him to call a raise because it forces you to make a tough decision if you miss the set. Calling preflop makes it easy to lay down if you don't like the flop and gives you plenty of room to find out where you're at if you do like it.

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Old 01-01-2003, 08:15 PM
gaylord focker gaylord focker is offline
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Default Re: did I get myself in trouble early?

We used to get a 5-10 NL game every day of the week. Unfortunately a lot of players busted out very quickly, so now when we get it, its usually only 3 or 4 handed, and even thats very rare.
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Old 01-02-2003, 01:22 AM
ben mo ben mo is offline
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Default Re: did I get myself in trouble early?

I would have bet 300 on the flop, and I would have checked the turn, but with the same results.

Preflop raise is questionable out of position. Let's just say you're making it easier for him to play his hand, whatever it is.

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