Why I switched to Party

benza13 · #1 06-02-2005, 12:48 PM

My first post after lurking for a while. I want to thank everyone that posts on this site, the discussions here could make anyone (ok almost anyone) a better player.

After about a year playing on UB I hit a horrid run. I was a winning player, not great, but making some money. Then I got cocky. I played above my limits and put myself into a 3 month downward spiral. I decided to take a break from cards. After about a week off I stumbled onto this site and started reading. Another week later I was making my first deposit at Party, I couldn't hold off anymore. I've been 3-4 tabling and doing quite well in the $11s so far, learning a lot from these forums. This hand below shows why I switched to Party and why I probably won't be leaving, unless the fish dry up.

Before you look at the results, try to put them on hands, I know I was surprised at showdown, I'll admit I got a little worried after 3 calls. This was the first hand by the way, the preflop call of the raise I think was ok based on the pot size and potential. Flame me if I am wrong...I'm here to learn.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, Hero calls t15, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t70, MP3 calls t70, 1 fold, Button calls t70, 2 folds, UTG calls t55, Hero calls t55.

Flop: (t375) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets t175, MP3 calls t175, Button calls t175, UTG folds, Hero raises to t730 (All-In), MP2 calls t555 (All-In), MP3 calls t555 (All-In), Button calls t555 (All-In).

Turn: (t3295) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 4 all-in)

River: (t3295) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players, 4 all-in)

Final Pot: t3295

Results in white below: 
Hero has 5d 5s (three of a kind, fives).
MP2 has Ks Qh (two pair, kings and queens).
MP3 has 9s Qs (two pair, queens and nines).
Button has Ac Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins t3295.

NYCNative · #2 06-02-2005, 12:50 PM

Prediction: You will get a lot of "Fold Preflop" responses.

MentalCombat · #3 06-02-2005, 12:53 PM

nah, he was getting almost 7-1 pot odds, that plus implied more than covers his set odds. I call this all day. Then again, I'm a luckbox :-P

kyro · #4 06-02-2005, 12:54 PM

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nah, he was getting 5-1 pot odds, that plus implied more than covers his set odds. I call this all day. Then again, I'm a luckbox :-P

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He's calling off just under 1/10 of his stack on the sole chance of hitting a set. It's not a terrible call, but it's not one I'd particularly make with 800 stacks.

jcm4ccc · #5 06-02-2005, 12:55 PM

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Prediction: You will get a lot of "Fold Preflop" responses.

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No he won't.

spentrent · #6 06-02-2005, 12:56 PM

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Prediction: You will get a lot of "Fold Preflop" responses.

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That would be a leak and a half... he's almost got immediate odds to play! Surely he'll be paid off if he spikes a set.

NYCNative · #7 06-02-2005, 12:56 PM

Come on... Many people here advocated folding Jacks in EP early in a Party SNG. You think they're gonna be thrilled with limp-call with 5s?

igotBlackJak · #8 06-02-2005, 12:57 PM

Thought process of each player at the river in this 10+1.

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Hero has 5d 5s (three of a kind, fives).

these dudes are idiots, right?

MP2 has Ks Qh (two pair, kings and queens).

"What are these fools doing, i got top pair"

MP3 has 9s Qs (two pair, queens and nines).

"Man i'm glad that 9 came, im so ahead here. They are all chasing flushes I bet"

Button has Ac Qc (one pair, queens).

This is the best hand ive had all game... if I lose i'm gonna call them all noobs for betting into me"

Outcome: Hero wins t3295.

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benza13 · #9 06-02-2005, 12:59 PM

I think I had the odds to call, I dont mind playing with a short stack and I'll probably fold 27 out of the next 29 hands anyways. If I hit the set and can double up, then I'm cruising to the money. Plus, there was no chance of a reraise after me as I'm last to act.

gumpzilla · #10 06-02-2005, 12:59 PM

The river? I can't imagine they were thinking much at the river, seeing as the action was done on the flop. And while KQ and Q9 definitely should have folded, I'm folding AQs with the four-flush in this situation approximately never.