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Old 06-01-2005, 12:40 PM
Chickweed Chickweed is offline
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Default Cinco Manos

Hey guys,
I've been reading the forum for a short while (approximately a year or two) and since I am getting hammered at 1/2 after taking a break for grad school last semester, I would like your input on these hands.

1) BB is 35/10. Should I value bet the river?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB




2) SB is 37/18/2.6. I figured this was an auto flop bet after the PF raise. Should I C/R here? Should I raise PF?
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB



3) Is this SOP? UTg was 56/6.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB


4) Button worries me here. He was a 46/0 with .3 aggression.
Should I bet the river?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ????????

Final Pot: 6.25 BB



5) Is this level of aggression standard, or do I need a tampon to plug up the leaks? UTG is 74/11/2.11.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (2.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (4.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:45 PM
gvibes gvibes is offline
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Default Re: Cinco Manos

Hand 1: seems pretty standard
Hand 2: I fold the flop. This play is better with reads, or if you feel you are getting run over by constant bets into you after pfr'ing
Hand 3: standard
Hand 4: If he's that passive, bet and fold to a raise
Hand 5: This is hand is completely read-dependent to me. I'd probably check/fold the river a lot though.

EDIT: I suck at 6 max
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:35 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: Cinco Manos

Hand 1: BB played the hand like he had a pocket pair or A high. I think PP is more likely, and he's not folding that. I'd need a read that villain is tight and can fold a small PP and A high (the default opponent would call at 1/2). He's not calling with a worst hand, so a river bet is pretty much a bluff. I'd check here. I think we win against KT, QJ etc enough times that it seems more profitable than bluffing.

Hand 2: I like the flop raise if CO is tight and I'm confident I can get this HU on a ragged board. But normally this is check/fold on the flop for me.

Hand 3: You played it fine.

Hand 4: Bet the river. Villain will call with more hands than he'll bet with, and he'll usually only raise with a hand that beats you. It seems safe enough to bet/fold the river.

Hand 5: Call me a wuss, but I tend to give up on the turn against all but the worst and loosest oppoents. I'd check/fold the turn. In your hand, check/fold the river is clear IMO.
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