Fold to a wimpy bet?

smcannon · #1 06-01-2005, 11:20 AM

I had an inkling that I was probably ahead after this dinky bet. But when it caught a caller, I figured someone might be playing top pair low kicker. Was I smart to assume this and fold?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t775)
MP1 (t2035)
MP2 (t635)
CO (t910)
Button (t820)
SB (t265)
BB (t875)
UTG (t1685)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, Hero calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, CO calls t30, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t165) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets t30, CO folds, BB folds, UTG calls t30, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t225

adanthar · #2 06-01-2005, 11:27 AM

Raise PF and you won't have this problem, now will you?

Karak567 · #3 06-01-2005, 11:28 AM

I don't really like raising JJ early PF.... leakage?

NYCNative · #4 06-01-2005, 11:29 AM

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Raise PF and you won't have this problem, now will you?

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smcannon · #5 06-01-2005, 11:30 AM

I'm not a big fan of raising any PP preflop this early in the tournament unless it's QQ, KK, AA.

Only exceptions being if I were first in the pot or it was later in the tourney.

NYCNative · #6 06-01-2005, 11:31 AM

Then may as well fold because you aren't gonna hit many sets and if you're going to call a PF raise to see a flop, may as well make that raise yourself.

wh1t3bread · #7 06-01-2005, 11:35 AM

IMO, If this is a 5+1 or 10+1 then playing JJ from early position in levels 1 and 2 for set value is not a bad play.

Unarmed · #8 06-01-2005, 11:40 AM

OMG can we stop debating JJ early PF?
Raise or limp, the hand can be played both ways at any level. There is no right or wrong answer so I wish people would stop presenting opinion like it is fact.

That wasn't directed at anyone in particular BTW, I just skimmed the thread.

smcannon · #9 06-01-2005, 12:02 PM

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OMG can we stop debating JJ early PF?
Raise or limp, the hand can be played both ways at any level. There is no right or wrong answer so I wish people would stop presenting opinion like it is fact.

That wasn't directed at anyone in particular BTW, I just skimmed the thread.

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With that said, can my question be answered now?

draw2aflush · #10 06-01-2005, 12:05 PM

Hello wimpy, Just kidding but,I definetly think (just my opinion)you played the hand fine preflop.Raising calling or even folding is expectable this is early in the tournament.Your choice would have to be decided by your assumpation of how other players will react.Immpossible that early.My choice would most likely be the same as yours(CALL).Postflop I would have also folded to the puny raise, with the intent of making utg believe all it takes is a bet and I will fold.This could very well snag utg later and also simply put (YOUR HAND IS NOT THAT GOOD)easy laydown.Good Luck 2u