SB hand

TStokes · #1 05-31-2005, 04:06 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

BB (t195)
UTG (t815)
UTG+1 (t770)
MP1 (t2065)
MP2 (t610)
CO (t1325)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t730)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises to t60, CO calls t60, 1 fold, Hero calls t45, MP2 calls t135, CO calls t135, Hero ??????

What should be my standard play here?

jgunnip · #2 05-31-2005, 04:29 PM

This seems like one of those folding pre-flop won't affect your ROI that much situations.

The viewer is a little mess. I assume BB raised? calling the min-raise pre-flop isn't horrible, but I think calling the raise most definitely is.

Bigwig · #3 05-31-2005, 04:30 PM

Fold to the first raise.

adanthar · #4 05-31-2005, 04:32 PM

Calling the first raise is marginal, although I'd definitely do it if I was the button.

Push after BB's raise and it is not close.

TStokes · #5 05-31-2005, 04:36 PM

I ended up folding but how bad is calling the minraise originally? Should I really be folding these hands to minraises pre flop?

adanthar · #6 05-31-2005, 04:54 PM

Oops...actually, I thought this was L1. In that case the call is much better and I probably make it from anywhere.

After the BB all ins, the fold is terrible.

The Yugoslavian · #7 05-31-2005, 05:16 PM

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Oops...actually, I thought this was L1. In that case the call is much better and I probably make it from anywhere.

After the BB all ins, the fold is terrible.

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Ugh..it took me like 2 full minutes to figure out what was actually happening in this hand....At first when I read your comment I was thinking, 'Adanthar, are you crazy?!?! The BB isn't in the hand!'....bah!

Ok, yes....push here looks goot, [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

Yugoslav

durron597 · #8 05-31-2005, 05:34 PM

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Oops...actually, I thought this was L1. In that case the call is much better and I probably make it from anywhere.

After the BB all ins, the fold is terrible.

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Ugh..it took me like 2 full minutes to figure out what was actually happening in this hand....At first when I read your comment I was thinking, 'Adanthar, are you crazy?!?! The BB isn't in the hand!'....bah!

Ok, yes....push here looks goot, [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

Yugoslav

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Are you saying push into a shortstack allin and *two* callers?

TStokes · #9 05-31-2005, 06:38 PM

Yes I did not call because his all in got two callers am I missing something?

adanthar · #10 05-31-2005, 11:07 PM

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Are you saying push into a shortstack allin and *two* callers?

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What range do you put the two callers on, what are the chances that you are ahead or a flip if your push gets called, and what odds will you be getting against the shortstack those times that they do fold?